Moen Shower Cartridge Removal Tool

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So, my question for the professionals is how much would a plumber have charged to replace this cartridge? I imagine they would have an ONA (Lasco) puller, which would have made this easy, but I didn't want to invest in one.
The original ONA Puller did not work on the 1222 (Posi-temp). We recently came out with an add on tube to rectify this.

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I found a message that was identical to the problem that I am having. The problem is the reply with the solution was nowhere to be found. The message was from 1998 and they thanked Terry for his help so I know the solution was given. Below is the text of the original post:

Posted by Rick and Christine on May 03, 1998 at 16:21:00:

Terry, Our shower waterflow will not turn fully turn-off. The shower fixture is a Moen with a push/pull handle. we removed the cover and see a brass stem/cartridge, where do we go from here to remove to make repair or replace. The unit has to be over 10 years old. There is a chrome sleeve over the stem.. is the chrome sleeve removable to get to the stem/cartridge.. Thanks for a great service.....
Water turned off in California.

Can someone either point me to the original answer or generate a new one?

Thanks,
Sean


if it's just an easy yank and replace cartridge, most plumbers will replace the cartridge. But if we have to fight with the damned thing, about 100% of us will tell you to do the same thing we'd do at our own house. REPLACE the entire valve and be done with it. Zero-percent chance that I'll spend more than about 15-minutes with a cartridge. It comes out or the valve gets replaced. Just don't have time or patience for the dumb shit.
 

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if it's just an easy yank and replace cartridge, most plumbers will replace the cartridge. But if we have to fight with the damned thing, about 100% of us will tell you to do the same thing we'd do at our own house. REPLACE the entire valve and be done with it. Zero-percent chance that I'll spend more than about 15-minutes with a cartridge. It comes out or the valve gets replaced. Just don't have time or patience for the dumb shit.


Ha Ha yea Michael its hard to be patient but busting holes in tile sometimes need avoiding . I like that though if it aint out in 15 minutes plan b with a big hammer goes in action
 

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The Danco puller for removing a cartridge from a 1968 Moen Chateau faucet.

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It pulled it out rather nicely. And yes, I did try pulling with the pliers first.

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They didn't want the crystal handle I had with me, so I went with the Danco handle replacement. A bit heavy with a new cartridge, but when the cartridge wears in, it will maintain position okay. It's a heavy handle.

I went with the Delta RP5834 tub spout that works well with a 1/2" pipe nipple. I had two different nipple extractors with me and needed them both. It was in there really, really hard.
 

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Nipple extractor tool used on a tub spout replacement, the post above this one.

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Two very old 1200 cartridges.

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New cartridge, new handle. The old cartridge was so still that she had pulled the old handle apart.
 

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Just wanted to thank all that contributed here over the years on this topic. I've changed 1200 and 1225 cart many times but have fought them too.
I've got a Danco Style puller like Terry pointed out and a Pasco 7040 puller, I don't do them often My second 1 in last year and a half today.
I looked at job a week ago a Moen 1200 trim and handle and other unrelated items handle very stiff trim very old as well. So decided to come prepared and brought a 1/2 inch tap.
Went today pulled trim off and went to use Danco puller to get started and neither the Danco or Pasco would screw in darn it! evidently the screw hole was tapped oversize. So gripped stem with vise grips and pried with channel locks pulled the center right out. BTW couldn't get cartridge to turn at all. proceeding I ran the 1/2 tap as far in as possible then removed tap and slid a hunk of 3/8 bolt that I hacked of I'm guessing 1 3/8 long and ran tap in that old brass came right out. just like suggested .
I wanted to turn it first but was unable but it still came right out . Any way that's my 2 cents happy camper here!
 

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I had to replace a Moen shower cartridge. took out the pin. used the tool. cartridge broke inside the valve. Came to realize the whole thing was plastic, so I took an old screwdriver and I heated it up. melted a groove in the cartridge. got some more out. did this about 3 times before the remaining pieces were so loose they came out easily. cleaned inside really well, installed new cartridge and no issues. I hope this helps someone.
 

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I had to replace a moen shower cartridge. took out the pin. used the tool. cartridge broke inside the valve. Came to realize the whole thing was plastic, so i took an old screwdriver and i heated it up. melted a groove in the cartridge. got some more out. did this about 3 times before the remaining pieces were so loose they came out easily. cleaned inside really well, installed new cartridge and no issues. I hope this helps someone.

will this work for a 1224B faucet cartridge?
 

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Highly recommend the Ona tool by Barry Walters it covers the Moentrol and the Posi-Temp. A must have for all plumbers and their tool box. The biggest recommendation I can give is to be considerate for the next plumber. You can save them a world of hurt replacing these cartridges by simply covering this material with a safe for potable water plumbing grease. This will ensure that these parts will produce less build up that may cause these parts to seize to the valve body and cause stubborn replacement.

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I know this is an old thread... but just wanted to add my experience with this issue (and resolution).
Several years ago, I had to replace a leaky Moen cartridge shower valve and the "twisting" type tools were not working at all.
Instead of going to the hardware store for a new tool, I just used some available sockets to make a homemade puller.

I just stacked a couple sockets over the valve and screwed a machine bolt into the cartridge. I also installed a nut and a couple of washers to this bolt prior to inserting the bolt thru the sockets... and then installed the bolt into the cartridge. The nut and washers acted as a puller when the bolt was held in a stationary position and the nut was tightened with a wrench (see image below). I also use this same technique when replacing sink cartridges.

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I know this is an old thread... but just wanted to add my experience with this issue (and resolution).
Several years ago, I had to replace a leaky Moen cartridge shower valve and the "twisting" type tools were not working at all.
Instead of going to the hardware store for a new tool, I just used some available sockets to make a homemade puller.

I just stacked a couple sockets over the valve and screwed a machine bolt into the cartridge. I also installed a nut and a couple of washers to this bolt prior to inserting the bolt thru the sockets... and then installed the bolt into the cartridge. The nut and washers acted as a puller when the bolt was held in a stationary position and the nut was tightened with a wrench (see image below). I also use this same technique when replacing sink cartridges.
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Right on works for you! I've got a couple tools and posted my version of pulling broken cartridge I have them in a kit ready to go.
 
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