Calling grey haired plumbers, help with 100 Y.O. WC

[Mike Magee]

We have in a rental property we own, a two pc toilet from 1923. The tank is wall hung, and the bracket is rusty, so removing may not be an option.
There is a leak in the pipe between the tank and toilet (toilet is top spud)

The WC has not moved in 100 years, and I am apprehensive about moving it if not absolutely necessaryt

The slip nut is cracked so that is certainly a likely reason for the leak. (see photo)

My question is based on the way this is put together do folks with experience think that the tank pipe can be removed by simply removing the two compression nuts? or with the spuds need to be removed as well? If so, what are the risks.

OR, worst case, do you think I will have to move either the toilet or tank in order to remove the pipe to replace the compression nuts.

Finally, I have seen the 90° pipes for rear spud toilets for sale on antique plumbing sites, but have not seen an offset for a top spud? Are these available somewhere?

Also can replacement spuds (are they both spuds, or just the toilet end) be found?

 

[Breplum]

No plumber in their right mind would do anything but refit everything.
Parts alone will run you over the cost of a nice modern toilet. Labor will make it an utter budget buster.
here is an offset for $154 plus shipping https://deabath.com/product/stainless-steel-2-offset-flush-ell-with-nuts-and-washers/
Then you still have an old trapway with mineral build-up and poor finish and uses too much water.

 

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[John Gayewski]

Replace the toilet. Unless this is a historical display.

 

[Jeff H Young]

Drop a chevy v8 in a 100 year old rolls royce . 100 year old radio throw it away dont fix it .
Yea its pricey not worth it for many , some people get a feeling of stewardship on an old house , and others put linoleum floors over the hardwood.
Its up to you as owner to decide you describe it as a rental as a rental and investment it verywell might make sence to go modern as a plumber I like to see this old stuff in use, but dont blame people for remodeling decrepid work

 

[Mike Magee]

No plumber in their right mind would do anything but refit everything.
Parts alone will run you over the cost of a nice modern toilet. Labor will make it an utter budget buster.
here is an offset for $154 plus shipping https://deabath.com/product/stainless-steel-2-offset-flush-ell-with-nuts-and-washers/
Then you still have an old trapway with mineral build-up and poor finish and uses too much water.

I would like nothing more than to replace this thing, but because of the footprint of the bowl, and the tank, doing so would mean retiling the floor and wall, which we can't do with tenants.

 

[Mike Magee]

Replace the toilet. Unless this is a historical display.

I would like nothing more than to replace this thing, but because of the footprint of the bowl, and the tank, doing so would mean retiling the floor and wall, which we can't do with tenants.

 

[Jeff H Young]

I would like nothing more than to replace this thing, but because of the footprint of the bowl, and the tank, doing so would mean retiling the floor and wall, which we can't do with tenants.

screw them , just a little patch in the floor

 

[Breplum]

You can get plastic cover for the floor. Look up “Oatey round nose”. Just cover the wall with a piece of whatever…stainless steel, white plastic or quick set epoxy with tile. All done in a few hours.

 

[Peterson]

Maybe this might help?

American Standard 47553-0020A 2 Inch O.D x 1-1/2 Inch Offset Tank to Bowl Connection - Locke Plumbing

You *should* be able to loosen the slip nuts on the old pipe, lift up on the pipe - pushing it further up in the flush valve to give you enough wiggle room to remove it.