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I want desperately to use a Brizo collection (Invari) as it is by far and away the most perfect for the design of the bathroom, tile, etc. for my bathroom remodel. But I am running into a potential big problem and need advice.
I have a tub shower combo and want to include a hand shower. Invari doesn't offer a combo fixed/handheld so need to plumb for a fixed and separate handheld shower heads. Normally, the R60000 rough (has tub port) with the R60700 diverter rough would be the set up, and what we used when we redid my mom's bathroom. But, Invari doesn't offer diverter trim and no other collections with the same finish to substitute. I could get a separate rough with handles for the tub spout and tee off the water supply to plumb for the shower components. Big pain in the butt because I would need to also widen the bay and much more expensive.
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Invari does make trim for the integrated shower rough with a diverter built in but there is no tub port. However, a Brizo rep told me I could use one of the 3 ports of the built in diverter to plumb to a non diverter tub spout and use a non shared diverter cartridge - one setting for the tub, one for the fixed shower and one for the handheld. BUT, two other Brizo reps are telling me bad idea and not recommended because there is a risk of low or no flow to the tub. ?? YET, one of the bullet pointed "features" of the spout states here, "Can be installed with shower diverter systems." And in the install instructions here it states "RP78582, RP81435, RP90567, RP92041 & RP100328 Non-diverter tub spouts can be used with shower diverter systems." The spout I would use would be the last one.
Why would Brizo state under "features" that this spout can be installed like this if there is a potential problem? The rep that told me OK didn't mention it but the other two reps told me I was taking a risk.
So, I thought I would ask real world plumbers what their thoughts were and if there are any install suggesstions to avoid any issues. Now is the time to ask, learn and do before the plumbing starts.
I want desperately to use a Brizo collection (Invari) as it is by far and away the most perfect for the design of the bathroom, tile, etc. for my bathroom remodel. But I am running into a potential big problem and need advice.
I have a tub shower combo and want to include a hand shower. Invari doesn't offer a combo fixed/handheld so need to plumb for a fixed and separate handheld shower heads. Normally, the R60000 rough (has tub port) with the R60700 diverter rough would be the set up, and what we used when we redid my mom's bathroom. But, Invari doesn't offer diverter trim and no other collections with the same finish to substitute. I could get a separate rough with handles for the tub spout and tee off the water supply to plumb for the shower components. Big pain in the butt because I would need to also widen the bay and much more expensive.
OR
Invari does make trim for the integrated shower rough with a diverter built in but there is no tub port. However, a Brizo rep told me I could use one of the 3 ports of the built in diverter to plumb to a non diverter tub spout and use a non shared diverter cartridge - one setting for the tub, one for the fixed shower and one for the handheld. BUT, two other Brizo reps are telling me bad idea and not recommended because there is a risk of low or no flow to the tub. ?? YET, one of the bullet pointed "features" of the spout states here, "Can be installed with shower diverter systems." And in the install instructions here it states "RP78582, RP81435, RP90567, RP92041 & RP100328 Non-diverter tub spouts can be used with shower diverter systems." The spout I would use would be the last one.
Why would Brizo state under "features" that this spout can be installed like this if there is a potential problem? The rep that told me OK didn't mention it but the other two reps told me I was taking a risk.
So, I thought I would ask real world plumbers what their thoughts were and if there are any install suggesstions to avoid any issues. Now is the time to ask, learn and do before the plumbing starts.