This is long winded, but there is not really any other way to state the situation at hand.
I am in northern Il and have an odd scenario regarding the sewer setup at my home.
Home (1950's) was originally on septic. At a some point and time the original homeowner sold a portion off the land off where the septic tank was located and converted to a gravity sewer which is about 200' long out the back of the property. The oddity is that the sewer is tied into a private sewer system of a condo/apartment complex, which is part of a different town. The back of our property line, is the dividing line of two towns.
The complex has a 10" sewer main and came to find out we are the lowest point of the roughly 2000-2500' system. Original homeowner tied the floor drain to a sump pit with a piece of 1-1/4" which clogged with a disposable wipe and other debris, so we flooded. Lots of floaters that were not from my family
So a backup happened and then a backwater valve/check valve was installed. We are now at the mercy of the complex to clear to blockage when they occur. It typically happens on off hours and holidays and getting someone out to water jet it is not the easiest. There have been three backups this year. The complex does not maintain the sewer to clear the grease logs and disposable wipes that litter the system.
My home is a single story, which has a half bath and a full bath on the first floor, which route straight down into the basement gravity sewer. The First floor kitchen exits out the basement wall into a grease separator and ties into the gravity sewer at some point exterior of the home. The basement consists of a full bath, washing machine and floor drains.
I have a couple of options.
Option #1
Tie into the correct sewer for my town with an overhead sewer. This would also allow me to obtain city water and keep the well for irrigation. The town will not let me obtain water unless we have an approved sewer which they state is required to be tied to the correct town. The cost on this is very high. It involves rerouting the sewer from the rear of the home to the front and directional bore under a county road. Estimate 5 years ago was around $20K
Option #2
Intercept existing gravity sewer with an ejector pit. Relocate the first floor full bath to overhead, so a bathroom can be use during pump failure. Half bath and basement plumbing would route to the ejector pit. Cost is going to considerably lower than the first option.
I am planning to go with option #2. Since I am looking to resolve the problem quickly and not deal with multiple permits for the county and city, cost factor and the current time of year.
I would like to convert to overhead sewer and keep all work within the home. Is there any reason why scenario listed below consisting of intercepting the current sewer with an ejector pit, 2" from the pit would route vertically to the the floor joists of the basement ceiling, then horizontal for a short distance, and then have a 4" vertical that ties into the existing gravity sewer before it leaves the home?
Attached is a picture of basically what I am looking to achieve.
I do not plan to tackle this task myself, but will perform the excavation of the floor and earth for the plumber prior to arrival. I am a tradesman who typically performs all work myself, but I do not want to put my family into the scenario since this is not my trade and I would like it to meet or exceed code for future sale of the home at some point.
I spoke with a commercial plumber on my jobsite briefly about the matter and he has not scene this situation. He stated typically the gravity is converted to overhead as shown in this image. The downside is coring a hole in basement wall, excavating the backyard and increased costs.
I am in northern Il and have an odd scenario regarding the sewer setup at my home.
Home (1950's) was originally on septic. At a some point and time the original homeowner sold a portion off the land off where the septic tank was located and converted to a gravity sewer which is about 200' long out the back of the property. The oddity is that the sewer is tied into a private sewer system of a condo/apartment complex, which is part of a different town. The back of our property line, is the dividing line of two towns.
The complex has a 10" sewer main and came to find out we are the lowest point of the roughly 2000-2500' system. Original homeowner tied the floor drain to a sump pit with a piece of 1-1/4" which clogged with a disposable wipe and other debris, so we flooded. Lots of floaters that were not from my family
So a backup happened and then a backwater valve/check valve was installed. We are now at the mercy of the complex to clear to blockage when they occur. It typically happens on off hours and holidays and getting someone out to water jet it is not the easiest. There have been three backups this year. The complex does not maintain the sewer to clear the grease logs and disposable wipes that litter the system.
My home is a single story, which has a half bath and a full bath on the first floor, which route straight down into the basement gravity sewer. The First floor kitchen exits out the basement wall into a grease separator and ties into the gravity sewer at some point exterior of the home. The basement consists of a full bath, washing machine and floor drains.
I have a couple of options.
Option #1
Tie into the correct sewer for my town with an overhead sewer. This would also allow me to obtain city water and keep the well for irrigation. The town will not let me obtain water unless we have an approved sewer which they state is required to be tied to the correct town. The cost on this is very high. It involves rerouting the sewer from the rear of the home to the front and directional bore under a county road. Estimate 5 years ago was around $20K
Option #2
Intercept existing gravity sewer with an ejector pit. Relocate the first floor full bath to overhead, so a bathroom can be use during pump failure. Half bath and basement plumbing would route to the ejector pit. Cost is going to considerably lower than the first option.
I am planning to go with option #2. Since I am looking to resolve the problem quickly and not deal with multiple permits for the county and city, cost factor and the current time of year.
I would like to convert to overhead sewer and keep all work within the home. Is there any reason why scenario listed below consisting of intercepting the current sewer with an ejector pit, 2" from the pit would route vertically to the the floor joists of the basement ceiling, then horizontal for a short distance, and then have a 4" vertical that ties into the existing gravity sewer before it leaves the home?
Attached is a picture of basically what I am looking to achieve.
I do not plan to tackle this task myself, but will perform the excavation of the floor and earth for the plumber prior to arrival. I am a tradesman who typically performs all work myself, but I do not want to put my family into the scenario since this is not my trade and I would like it to meet or exceed code for future sale of the home at some point.
I spoke with a commercial plumber on my jobsite briefly about the matter and he has not scene this situation. He stated typically the gravity is converted to overhead as shown in this image. The downside is coring a hole in basement wall, excavating the backyard and increased costs.
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