Kingston Brass drain kit on claw foot tub question

[Jagr676]

Hi there doing a bathroom renovation and have an older clawfoot slipper tub we’re installing. The Kingston Brass drain kit comes with 2 washers for the overflow piping one beveled and one straight. Also comes with a straight washer for the drain shoe. problem I’m having is the beveled washer isn’t enough of an angle for overflow tubing to run straight and the drain shoe is at an angle and running uphill. Just dry fittting haven’t cut or assembled anything yet into the sanitary tee but doesn’t feel like I would have enough play to pull this pipes level or with some pitch on the drain when tightening everything up. Especially since there both joining together in opposite directions. Any ideas?

 

[Jeff H Young]

These issues arent unusual Aint that a pisser the damn shoe back falls welcome to my world , you could try a differant manufacture. you might be able to find differant angle gaskets Ive never had the issue on exposed pipe befor. I wonder if you can get a bend on the shoe piece but afraid it will get damaged and dont want to discolor it

 

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[Jagr676]

Ya and unfourtanetly not much I can do with the clawfoot tub since it’s was bought used. Maybe worth reaching out to Kingston brass see if they’ve seen this and any ideas? The overflow tubing angled gasket is foamy and seems like it would pull more easily level. The drain I feel is what I’m more worried about I can’t imagine it’s that great to have back pitch on the drain shoe piece roughly 6 inches long. I’m a homeowner and sprinkler fitter by trade certainly not a plumber but know enough to get myself in trouble lol. Any other ideas are much appreciated thanks

 

[Jeff H Young]

certainly undesireable to have back fall over 6 inches looks like over a 1/4 inch the overflow is aestetic and just getting fitup that holds well. Ive took a angle grinder to bottom side of fiberglass tubs , Id concider it its an old tub itll pull flat against the bottom never seen a tapered washer on the bottom if you could make one you trusted that would work fine too .

 

[John Gayewski]

Screw the drain into the shoe tight and firmly push down on the tube. Slowly and firmly guide it to level on just barely sloped. The overflow is fine.

 

[Jagr676]

certainly undesireable to have back fall over 6 inches looks like over a 1/4 inch the overflow is aestetic and just getting fitup that holds well. Ive took a angle grinder to bottom side of fiberglass tubs , Id concider it its an old tub itll pull flat against the bottom never seen a tapered washer on the bottom if you could make one you trusted that would work fine too .

Ya I thought of grinder as well that may be the trick…

 

[Jagr676]

Screw the drain into the shoe tight and firmly push down on the tube. Slowly and firmly guide it to level on just barely sloped. The overflow is fine.

The commercial side of me wants to try this. The homeowner in me is holding me back worried something might break…

 

[John Gayewski]

The commercial side of me wants to try this. The homeowner in me is holding me back worried something might break…

Slowly firmly. You'll hear or feel if something isn't right.

 

[Jeff H Young]

Some down pressure would help like john says grinder is kinda messy in the house but whatever works

 

[Jagr676]

Some down pressure would help like john says grinder is kinda messy in the house but whatever works

Thanks guys rookie move was not checking the floor and thus pitch of the tub. Was pitching the same way drain was going. Once I shimmed and got level with a touch of pitch the shoe drains fine.

While Im at it any suggestions on best way to tie this drain in downstairs in basement? The 3” Tye is getting cut out and reworked as I moved the toilet so I’ll set a 3 x 1.5 Tye just wondering some ideas on best way to tie her in. I’ve got those 2- 3/4 hot and cold mains I’m right in between.

 

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[Jeff H Young]

cant tell for sure but the tub might be able to be wet vented easily . water looks easy

 

[Jagr676]

cant tell for sure but the tub might be able to be wet vented easily . water looks easy

Yea water will be straight forward set it up already for 3/4” washer machine hookup. The drain I wasn’t too sure obviously need to get a trap in there somewhere would it better if I do everything 2”? Or since tub drain is 1.5 keep sane?

There was a tub already here that was wet vented on this same line I haven’t added any new fixtures just flip flopped the toilet and tub.

 

[John Gayewski]

Yea water will be straight forward set it up already for 3/4” washer machine hookup. The drain I wasn’t too sure obviously need to get a trap in there somewhere would it better if I do everything 2”? Or since tub drain is 1.5 keep sane?

The trap arm should be 1.5". After the vent, the drain portion should be 2".

 

[John Gayewski]

Maybe draw an iso for better recommendations on how to pipe it.

 

[Jeff H Young]

1 1/2 " inch trap and arm is good Ive done 2 inch as well on big tubs Im not sure it helps cost of parts kills me So Id probebly just go 1 1/2 "