Katalox,softener,carbon questions

[Jay Vining]

Hey there again, just me looking for help, yet again.



Been doing a lot of work on the plumbing on the house and well. For sanitizing the above mentioned systems how would one go about it?

The heads are all 5810s on 12x52 bottles.

Katalox light -> Softener (rm100 media) -> Centaur carbon.

How would I sanitize the katalox and carbon bottles? I would assume that with the softener I can introduce something into the brine tank and use that way, but on the other two, there isn't a brine line. Should I convert them to that style? And what disinfectant should be used?

We do drink this water if that makes any difference. Thanks again for all of your help!

Jay

 

[Reach4]

Katalox light -> Softener (rm100 media) -> Centaur carbon.

That is an unusual order. I would expect the carbon upstream of the softener.

How would I sanitize the katalox and carbon bottles? I would assume that with the softener I can introduce something into the brine tank and use that way, but on the other two, there isn't a brine line. Should I convert them to that style? And what disinfectant should be used?

I would use liquid chlorine bleach from Aldi, and vinegar to adjust pH.

Did you read
https://terrylove.com/forums/index....izing-extra-attention-to-4-inch-casing.65845/ ? That discusses santizing the well and more.

What does your Centaur Carbon system do? Backwash? Solution?

I would keep the softener in bypass most of the time, until the chlorine level is low enough

Your 5810SXT service manual has directions on sanitizing the brine tank.

 

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[Jay Vining]

I have familiarized myself with that thread. I realized I rambled a bit. Mostly I was curious to the processes of getting these resin bottles "clean".

The order was OK'd by a couple people here and the guy that sold the stuff to me (Their initials are "A.S"). But I am not saying I dont think you are right. They wouldn't be to bad to re-arrange if it came to it. Maybe that's why my water isn't a "soft" as some of my friends.

The centaur and katalox backwash only with no solutions. On my last service to the plumbing I dosed some chlorine bleach into the first big blue, bypassed the everything ( since I didn't want to harm anything ) and let it run until I got chlorine on a pool strip at every tap and let it sit for a few hrs before flushing it and lining the filters back up. I dont necessarily have any probs with the water, but since we drink it....my mind does wonder everytime I open something up, even when I change filters.

I see their is iron filter and softener refresh jugs at the hardware store. Are those good to use?

 

[Reach4]

I dosed some chlorine bleach into the first big blue, bypassed the everything ( since I didn't want to harm anything ) and let it run until I got chlorine on a pool strip at every tap and let it sit for a few hrs before flushing it and lining the filters back up.

Pool chlorine tests are low range-- around 5 ppm I think. However to get 5 ppm at your hot faucets, the water had to go thru the WH, and that diluted the chlorine a lot.

My Centaur Carbon is before my softener. It's purpose is to remove iron and H2S. It gets dosed during each regen with 1/12 of a bottle of Aldi chlorine bleach. The chlorine then gets rinsed out before the system goes back into service. So with regen every 3rd night, I refill my solution tank every 3 days. Anyway, from this I infer that CC is tolerant of chlorine.

Softener resin is not tolerant of long term chlorine, and I expect it is not so tolerant of short term strong chlorine. When I sanitize my well and plumbing every few years, I try to get the chlorine up to 200 ppm or so. I lower the pH to make the bleach much more effective. I keep the KL in bypass during part of that, but I do run some bleach thru it after the chlorine has dropped... I think maybe 50 ppm or so. The softener I keep in bypass longer, but still run the disinfecting solution thru there once the chlorine has dropped to maybe 10 ppm. But not for long. I make sure that rinses out. I am not prescribing my method to you, but you may see some merit.

You did not respond to "Your 5810SXT service manual has directions on sanitizing the brine tank.". Since the brine with chlorine also gets slowly rinsed thru the resin in the next regen, you are also treating the resin. I would suggest the method described in your manual for when the softener is installed, but I think it could be repeated every few years or when you clean your brine tank of residue.

For your calculations, 8% bleach is 80,000 ppm. When you are mixing some tablespoons of bleach into your brine, there is a lot of dilution. I will leave it to you and your spreadsheet.

 

[Bannerman]

Bleach is not going to pass through the carbon tank as carbon will rapidly remove chlorine. If you want to sanitize the plumbing lines downstream from the carbon, the carbon filter system will need to be bypassed.

 

[Jay Vining]

Bleach is not going to pass through the carbon tank as carbon will rapidly remove chlorine. If you want to sanitize the plumbing lines downstream from the carbon, the carbon filter system will need to be bypassed.

Rgr, I do that with the carbon. But was just wondering if there is a way to or is it beneficial to convert everything over to softener style valves to draw in specifics products for carbon and the katalox.

They sell an iron filter product at the hardware store, but I dont know how to get it in the bottle.

 

[Reach4]

Rgr, I do that with the carbon. But was just wondering if there is a way to or is it beneficial to convert everything over to softener style valves to draw in specifics products for carbon and the katalox.

They sell an iron filter product at the hardware store, but I dont know how to get it in the bottle.

If you are going to give a treatment of Iron Out, that can go into the brine tank. Then do a regen, and stop the flow to let the solution sit with the resin for a while, rather than rinse on through right away. There are techniques if you want to discuss that further.

There are other products, but a 152 ounce bottle of Iron Out powder gives a lot of effective cleaning for the buck. Iron Out® Rust Stain Remover at Menards®