Corgilvr
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I am a first time poster here and may need help translating to correct plumbing vocabulary. Thanks in advance for your patience.
The water was turned on yesterday in my just almost completed 7 week bathroom remodel. This is an old house and the bathroom was gutted to the studs and all old plumbing was replaced from the basement to the second floor. I love my new Toto toilet! I do not like the way the plumbing looks under my sink. All the undersink plumbing is visible since there is no cabinet under the sink and counter top. A contractor with excellent references was hired to do the work and this was not a "budget" job. We welcomed change orders if costs to meet our expectations exceeded those in the original contract. The contractor was aware of the design, pictures were provided at the outset of the job and he made a point of having me order a sink which was glazed on the underside since it would be visible. I specified for all visible pipes and supply lines to be upgraded. I did not want any flexible tubing to be seen and wanted polished chrome for anything visible beneath the sink.
The lenght of the tail piece and extensions leading to the p trap is 12 inches long. It looks ridiculous. I expected the length to be similar to plumbing in other rooms. The outlet to the waste pipe is not centered between the supply lines for the hot and cold water. The p trap is also turned slightly to the right of the waste outlet. There are two extensions between the chrome tail pipe and the actual p trap. They are two different colors and one is a brushed rather than polished chrome. Teflon tape is also visible at one of the connections. Frankly, it looks like a a beginner DIY job with found bits and pieces joined together to make things work. I was home as the flexible mesh supply lines were about to be installed and those were changed to chrome. I was not at home when the water was turned on and could not see how the drain would function or look.
The outlet to the waste pipe is 11 inches above the floor. Any of this plumbing could have been moved before the new walls and tile went up. I readily admit this was not something I knew anything about. That is why I hired someone with excellent references and provided pictures of my desired outcome.
To add to all of this, water pools in the sink instead of flowing freely into the drain. By the time the water gets hot, about three inches of water has accumulated in the sink It seems the pop up does not lift high enough for the water to flow freely. I hope an adjustment there will solve this. This was not a problem with the old sink.
Needless to say, I am very disappointed with both the function and appearance of the final outcome. I have yet to turn anything on in the shower area as I'd like the contractor to be there for that experience.
These are the questions I plan to ask the contractor: Is 12 inches from the sink drain outlet to the p trap a normal distance? If a job was planned well, would two extensions really be necessary to connect the tail pipe to the p trap? Is the waste outlet usually centered between supply lines? Why is the p trap be turned to the right of the waste outlet? How can we fix this?
Will I need to have the waste outlet raised to solve this? I have boxes of extra tile I have yet to return and we have not made final payment. At least I love the toilet!
PS We just realized the shower, which has yet to be turned on, is dripping!
The water was turned on yesterday in my just almost completed 7 week bathroom remodel. This is an old house and the bathroom was gutted to the studs and all old plumbing was replaced from the basement to the second floor. I love my new Toto toilet! I do not like the way the plumbing looks under my sink. All the undersink plumbing is visible since there is no cabinet under the sink and counter top. A contractor with excellent references was hired to do the work and this was not a "budget" job. We welcomed change orders if costs to meet our expectations exceeded those in the original contract. The contractor was aware of the design, pictures were provided at the outset of the job and he made a point of having me order a sink which was glazed on the underside since it would be visible. I specified for all visible pipes and supply lines to be upgraded. I did not want any flexible tubing to be seen and wanted polished chrome for anything visible beneath the sink.
The lenght of the tail piece and extensions leading to the p trap is 12 inches long. It looks ridiculous. I expected the length to be similar to plumbing in other rooms. The outlet to the waste pipe is not centered between the supply lines for the hot and cold water. The p trap is also turned slightly to the right of the waste outlet. There are two extensions between the chrome tail pipe and the actual p trap. They are two different colors and one is a brushed rather than polished chrome. Teflon tape is also visible at one of the connections. Frankly, it looks like a a beginner DIY job with found bits and pieces joined together to make things work. I was home as the flexible mesh supply lines were about to be installed and those were changed to chrome. I was not at home when the water was turned on and could not see how the drain would function or look.
The outlet to the waste pipe is 11 inches above the floor. Any of this plumbing could have been moved before the new walls and tile went up. I readily admit this was not something I knew anything about. That is why I hired someone with excellent references and provided pictures of my desired outcome.
To add to all of this, water pools in the sink instead of flowing freely into the drain. By the time the water gets hot, about three inches of water has accumulated in the sink It seems the pop up does not lift high enough for the water to flow freely. I hope an adjustment there will solve this. This was not a problem with the old sink.
Needless to say, I am very disappointed with both the function and appearance of the final outcome. I have yet to turn anything on in the shower area as I'd like the contractor to be there for that experience.
These are the questions I plan to ask the contractor: Is 12 inches from the sink drain outlet to the p trap a normal distance? If a job was planned well, would two extensions really be necessary to connect the tail pipe to the p trap? Is the waste outlet usually centered between supply lines? Why is the p trap be turned to the right of the waste outlet? How can we fix this?
Will I need to have the waste outlet raised to solve this? I have boxes of extra tile I have yet to return and we have not made final payment. At least I love the toilet!
PS We just realized the shower, which has yet to be turned on, is dripping!