A person claims to be a plumber

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The concentration of sewer gas needed to create an explosive atmostphere is well above what would enter the house. I have used cutting torches into the sewer lines and have NEVER even gotten a flame, much less an explosion.
 

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Call the local plumbing inspector, he will come out and ask to see their licenses.

If you call the inspector and they are not plumbers you will then have to get licensed plumbers and they will have to pull permits...the price may / will go up and depending on what you are having done your property taxes may go up also...I am not saying don't call...I am just letting you know what might happen...
 

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This is getting complicated.
They're supposed to finish today.
This banging/sawing/impact noise is getting to me, plus one of us has to be always be here while they are here.
TGIF.
Thanks for all your inputs:eek:
 

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This is getting complicated.
They're supposed to finish today.
This banging/sawing/impact noise is getting to me, plus one of us has to be always be here while they are here.
TGIF.
Thanks for all your inputs:eek:

In many States if they said they were plumbers and they are not you don't have to pay them...you could also tell them that you will pay them after the inspection...:eek: What exactly are they doing...
 

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do they show decent butt-crack???

If they are only plumbers helpers, apprentices or jack legs
their is a good chance that they will show at least
50 to 90% of their asses while working...

also check how many cigarette breaks that they take..



If they are journeymen, you will only see a hint of butt crack..
maybe only about 30%. and perhaps they chew and spit....



Now if they are actually master plumbers...you will see a shirt tucked in and a leather belt holding up their pants or shorts.... only in the most dire situations
will you see them expose the butt crack to the light...




now that was not so hard to explain... was it??
 
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Adding to what Mark said:

  • Magnetic signage on the "company" vehicle.
  • No commercial plates on the "company" vehicle.
  • They suggest that you should pick up and pay for all materials to "save" money.
  • At the local supply houses their account is under the name of "CASH CUSTOMER"
 

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Even as an apprentice I wore a uniform not because my boss required it but
I thought it looked profesinal,and still do,clean and pressed in the morning.
Dirty and sweaty at the end of the day.Clean cut and no beard.
That is the way I was taught. NO BC.And I paid for the uniforms my self.
 
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those are very good points

Adding to what Mark said:

  • Magnetic signage on the "company" vehicle.
  • No commercial plates on the "company" vehicle.
  • They suggest that you should pick up and pay for all materials to "save" money.
  • At the local supply houses their account is under the name of "CASH CUSTOMER"

those are some very good points to look for...

another one is when they need half their money paid

"up front" to start the job...



in this town their a lot of supply houses that have a lot of NEW "cash only customers " plumbers out in the feild right now..I watch them pull out their wallets
to pay for their supplies when I stop in to the stores every morning.


we just had a big time plumber go belly up
oweing over 750k to a handful of supply
houses in this city..

I guess on the flip side we have picked up a lot
of new customers because their original plumbers are gone
and their phones are disconnected.....





it is getting real ugly out there.....
 
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Click user CP up above, you'll be there.
This time it worked.

One bid was $12k, she went with the $10k bid. 5'x7', new shower doors & wall tiling, shower basin, pedestal sink, toilet, floor tiling, painting, med. cab., misc., two guys and a helper, 18 hrs so ~$400/hr.
 
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You probably own your own business now

Even as an apprentice I wore a uniform not because my boss required it but
I thought it looked profesinal,and still do,clean and pressed in the morning.
Dirty and sweaty at the end of the day.Clean cut and no beard.
That is the way I was taught. NO BC.And I paid for the uniforms my self.

I am willing to bet that you own your own company now.... or at least their is a good chance you are a key
person or in upper management wherever you work...

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to add to the long list of signs of trouble..

another perk that most of the flunkies like.

not having to wear any type of uniform to work..

and the best perk of all......not being drug tested..

they will work for much less if they know you wont test ever them....

( that is considered a perk --or benefit by many losers)

 

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responsibility

When I was an apprentice, I was in charge of the journeymen, including my father, and when the owner had heart surgery and was off for two years I ran the company. Until circumstances forced me to it, I always said I would never start my own company. And I have NEVER worn a unform to work.
 

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I"m with hj, I don't wear a uniform either.
Way too stuffy,

I don't wear shorts to work though, even if it gets really, really hot.
If it's too hot, maybe skip work and go fishing.

But no shorts.

You can tell a plumber by the burn marks on their wrists.
Hot dripping flux melting skin scars.

Don't forget the eye protection.

Remember, solder the farthest joint first,
and then work your way closer to your body.
That way, when you finish a joint, you can do the next one a bit closer and the flux wont drip all over your arms.

In the Winter time, if you wear rubber boots in the mud, then your aches will get sore.
So then switch to stiffer boots, until your knees start to get too sore,
Then switch back to rubber boots, until your kness feel better, and switch back again when your arches start getting sore again.

Don't forget to replace your gloves when they wear holes in them.
Ever grap hot copper when you have a hole in your glove?

You can tell a plumber by the glue he has stuck on this hands.
That stuff can last for days on the skin.
 

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Image is everything $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I myself wear a nice polo work shirt in blue

usually jeans during the winter and in the summer
cargo work shorts .....

I have been considering uniforms for this reason


the funny thing about uniforms..... many of the biggest plumbers in town make their employees wear
nice white shirts and blue pants....

It ablsolutley amazes me how people are willing to pay top dollar for them to come out looking extra clean neat....
like 1400 for a 40 gal gas water heater

they pay it and dont think twice...
 

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quote; Remember, solder the farthest joint first,
and then work your way closer to your body.
That way, when you finish a joint, you can do the next one a bit closer and the flux wont drip all over your arms.

Plus you are not reaching over hot joints, and bumping into them, to make the next one.
 
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