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    Today I noticed that while doing a load of laundry, my bathtub was backing up with dirty water and my toilet was leaking around the base. Upon googling I figured it was a main drain clog, so I called a local plumber. He initially agreed the main line needed to be unclogged and proceeded to do so. Once he got in there, he noticed there was a lot of dirt that was in the drain, and was unsure why. A little while later, and still unable to unclog the main drain from outside the house, he went to the toilet in the master bath where I had first noticed the problem. After he was snaking the toilet for awhile, I peaked outside and noticed that his "snake" had come up through the front yard garden and was down the driveway. He told me that my sanitary drain pipe underneath the house had a hole in it somewhere, but that he'd have to take a camera down the pipe to know for sure what he's dealing with. With it being a Saturday after hours, I decided that I'd wait until normal business hours to do anything else. My house was built in 2000, with PVC piping. I have several questions:

    What are the causes? There are no large trees anywhere near my house so I am fairly certain that's not the problem.

    Is it possible that while trying to clear the clog, he could have busted the pipe?

    Most importantly, how much, on average, would this type of repair cost?

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    A snake can break a drain line but I doubt that's what happened here. If the line had dirt in it before he started snaking it, the pipe was allready broken which would have caused the back up. Plastic pipe can break due to stress placed on it. Maybe as it passes under the foundation in the front of the house. Or ground movement. Or a poor joint.

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    You probably have an "Orangeburg" sewer pipe OUTSIDE the house. Since it was basically rolled up tarpaper, AND collapsed, the snake just bored through it and out of the ground. I had it happen once, but it came out of the ground at the feet of the homeowner who was sitting on a yard bench. It would be VERY unlikely to be broken under the house and still come up OUTSIDE the building, because of concrete foundations around the structure that would have stopped it. I, personnally, would NOT invest a few hundred dollars in a camera inspection, which will be useless any way if the pipe has water in it. I would just dig down where the pipe comes out of the building, the snake has told you where that is, and find out exactly what kind of pipe you have. If it is Orangeburg, then complete replacement is the only option. As an aside, IF I cannot unplug a sewer from "outside", I would absolutely NOT try to do it from the toilet opening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hj View Post
    You probably have an "Orangeburg" sewer pipe OUTSIDE the house. Since it was basically rolled up tarpaper, AND collapsed, the snake just bored through it and out of the ground. I had it happen once, but it came out of the ground at the feet of the homeowner who was sitting on a yard bench. It would be VERY unlikely to be broken under the house and still come up OUTSIDE the building, because of concrete foundations around the structure that would have stopped it. I, personnally, would NOT invest a few hundred dollars in a camera inspection, which will be useless any way if the pipe has water in it. I would just dig down where the pipe comes out of the building, the snake has told you where that is, and find out exactly what kind of pipe you have. If it is Orangeburg, then complete replacement is the only option. As an aside, IF I cannot unplug a sewer from "outside", I would absolutely NOT try to do it from the toilet opening.
    Well the snake came out right where the front door/garden meet, so that makes me think it was trying to find it's way out for a while before that, which would place it somewhere in my living room/foyer. The plumber told me (and bear with me because I have no knowledge of plumbing what-so-ever) that while he was first trying to snake out the main drain(the hole in my front yard) he was only able to get about 15 feet, so that is how we guestimated the break to be somewhere around the living area/garage, depending on what direction the pipe goes.

    What kind of costs am I looking at if I do indeed need to remove part of the foundation to find this broken pipe?

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    Is your house on a concrete slab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcelite View Post
    Is your house on a concrete slab?
    Yes, it's on a concrete slab

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