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    I am having a toilet replaced (an AS that leaks) and was hoping to find one to go with a Kohler Memoirs pedestal sink. I was looking at the Toto Promenade or Clayton, but my contractor tells me they only come in ADA height. I really prefer a standard height. I have been reading the forum and see that many of you prefer the comfort height, but I, personally, HATE it!! Sorry, but I am somewhat short. Anyway, I found the Kohler Portrait and Revival, which are styles I like, in the standard height, but I want something that works and through reading this site, that seems to be Toto. Is it true that in 2-piece, only the Drake is standard height?! Why isnt anyone making standard height toilets anymore? not everyone other than me could possibly want ADA ! Please help!! Thank you !!!

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    The Clayton does not appear to have a non-ADA option. The Promenade does, but you are limited to a round bowl. The Drake is available in just about every config. You can get the non-ADA in either the round or elongated bowl.
    Here is a list of all of the non-ADA toilets from the Toto web site.
    http://www.totousa.com/Default.aspx?...da7f9&page=all

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    The letter "F" is a 16-1/8" high bowl, so the Promenade is the same height as the Clayton.

    The Carrollton CST774S is a standard height bowl.
    Drake CST744 and CST743 is 14.5" high
    Ultimate MS853113, MS854114
    Ultramax MS853113S (E) MS854114S (E)
    Supreme MS863113, MS864114

    Aquia CST416M is 15-1/8"
    Vespin CST764S
    Carlyle MS874114SG
    Pacific CST804S
    Carolina MS884114


    And yes, everyone is different.

    Toto F = 16-1/8" high
    Toto L = 16-1/2" high

    The others tend be be between 14-1/2" and 15-1/8"

    Last edited by Terry; 06-26-2012 at 03:00 PM.

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    Thank you, Carl and Terry for your replies. Since there arent many options in Toto standard height, I may just go with the Drake. Not my first choice look wise. Does anyone know of any standard heights made by someone other than Toto that may be what I am looking for and still be a decent toilet? Thank you!

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    My 7 year old Portrait works fine, don't know what changes they have made since then.

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    Get the Drake! It's a great toilet and will provide years of trouble free service. Of course, flappers and such have to be replaced occasionally, but they are parts that are inexpensive and available everywhere. Most important is they just don't clog. By all means avoid the Kohler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    The letter "F" is a 16-1/8" high bowl, so the Promenade is the same height as the Clayton.

    The Carrollton CST774S is a standard height bowl.
    Drake CST744 and CST743 is 14.5" high
    Ultimate MS853113, MS854114
    Ultramax MS853113S (E) MS854114S (E)
    Supreme MS863113, MS864114

    Aquia CST416M is 15-1/8"
    Vespin CST764S
    Carlyle MS874114SG
    Pacific CST804S
    Carolina MS884114


    And yes, everyone is different.

    Toto F = 16-1/8" high
    Toto L = 16-1/2" high

    The others tend be be between 14-1/2" and 15-1/8"
    Quick question on Toto Drake bowl height. What's the deal with the PDFs stating 14 5/8 bowl height as opposed to 14 1/2 for some of the other brands? I know it's a bit nit picking, but what's with the 1/8 inch diff?

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    There is no industry standard...it is what it is. FWIW, Toto uses much less water in their porcelain mix which means that it shrinks much less than most others. It also slumps less, so is more consistent. Most people prefer taller toilets. It's closer to sitting on a dining room chair rather than a low foot stool. So, that's what many of the Totos have, taller toilets. There are a few exceptions.
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    Hi. I just joined & this is my first post.
    I'd really like to start a new thread but cannot see how to do that.
    So here goes:
    I totally agree w/ctmom2. I'm only 5' tall, so I also HATE!! the ADA/universal height.
    I'm looking for a decent HET (1.28 GPF or less) in a standard height (roughtly 14.5 inches).
    So far I've seen the Mansfield Prestigio 4, but general concensus is that Mansfield is a crummy brand.
    I once had a Kohler, and it was nothing but problems, so no more Kohlers ever.
    Thanks for your help!!

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