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    Default Hydrocare HC38 Thoughts???

    anyone have any experience with this unit? does it work

    500 bucks for up to 3 baths. 1000 for larger

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    http://www.hydrocareusa.com

    any feedback would be cool

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    I can guarantee that it will lighten your wallet but your water quality will not be anywhere as good as softened water from a water softener.
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    will it take care of limescale?

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    I would throw the idea of magnetic softening out the door. They don't work! You want a good water softener, i would check out this site i found. Good quality water softeners for cheap money and you could find a plumber to install it for you. If your handy, you could do it yourself, its way simple. I sell and install softeners myself, and the prices are so low on this site, i might actually start buying from them.

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    If you are serious about finding a new supplier, you should talk to me.
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    CAUTION, as of Nov 12 2013 all YouTube videos showing how to rebuild a Clack valve have an error in them that can cause damage.

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    First of all, I have one in my house and am extremely happy with the unit. i even tested my upstairs sinks to see if the signal was traveling throughout the house and found that the signal was (I used a device that measures radio signals).
    I know a bit about hard water and would point out that those disparaging the product are trying to sell more expensive water softeners. Also, if you look at the hydrocare website, they explain that they are not using magnets. That being said, it's not going to make your water feel soft like a water softener but it will prevent the scale as claimed. They have some real tests showing it works and they also offer a satisfaction guarantee so why not try it.

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    Allen I'm happy for you and will simply say that my softener customers are happier because they get a number of other benefits form their softened water than just scale prevention and removable.
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    Default I hate soft water

    Here's my thoughts; I hate soft water! Slimy skin, salt to deal with large expensive equipment to break down. No thanks. My water is terrible. I have an HC38 on the way. I read the testimonials (Non of which were from people who sell water sofenters) One was from a freind of mine that I trust. I'll try it.

    I know the softener people say "You'll get used to it." Well I don't want to get used to it! Yuck. I'll bet that's what the big convict says to the little little convict when they get in the same cell. You'll get used to it.

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    I find it so interesting interesting that this is the FIRST POST for both Allen and Scott D Plumber ... what a coincidence. How fortunate this manufacturer is to have both these people come to the defense of this SNAKE OIL!

    I'll tell you what, only when the equipment gets certified through a reputable organization such as the Water Quality Association and objective scientific studies get published will I give this any thought.

    What a joke!! A simple radio signal and all the limescale just dissolves away ... yea right.

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    Smile really?

    Actually Sport, I have been an advisor on ****.com for about 15 years. (name not allowed on this site) I just found this forum while looking around the internet for more info on this product and thought I’d weigh in. I assume that’s acceptable to you. Now it’s the web, and people can make up what they want, however I have been in this field since 1984. I have held a master plumber, gas fitter and pipe fitter card since 1998. I have run pipe many people have not even heard of including several different types of acid waste including Durion, Glass, Fuseal and Enfield, soldered up to 6” copper on hotel jobs, run Cast iron to 16” including lead and oakum joints and no hub as well as compression, stainless steel, all the plastics for waste and water and even sprinkler. I have run a small repair company and school, college and other commercial project s and have served as a project manager and estimator in Richmond Va for major outfits, am a radiant floor heating designer and consultant as well as a trainer for a major tankless water heater.

    So, I think my opinion counts for a little something. I too have seen things come and go (Quest) and seen promises not live up to expectations. However if everyone had their head up their butt and refused to try new things in the field you sir would still be riding a horse to work and screwing galvanized pipe together. (Which I have also done)
    I advise anyone to keep an open mind on things and do their own homework! Instead of just spouting off something negative because you wish to show how smart you are.

    I don’t know much more about this thing than you, however I do know someone who has it and wears by it that I trust. Once mine is in, I’ll report back. My guess is some people will still disregard it and that’s fine. It’s a free country...at least for a little while longer. Have a nice day.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott D. Plumber View Post
    Actually Sport, I have been an advisor on ****.com for about 15 years. (name not allowed on this site) I just found this forum while looking around the internet for more info on this product and thought Iíd weigh in. I assume thatís acceptable to you. Now itís the web, and people can make up what they want, however I have been in this field since 1984. I have held a master plumber, gas fitter and pipe fitter card since 1998. I have run pipe many people have not even heard of including several different types of acid waste including Durion, Glass, Fuseal and Enfield, soldered up to 6Ē copper on hotel jobs, run Cast iron to 16Ē including lead and oakum joints and no hub as well as compression, stainless steel, all the plastics for waste and water and even sprinkler. I have run a small repair company and school, college and other commercial project s and have served as a project manager and estimator in Richmond Va for major outfits, am a radiant floor heating designer and consultant as well as a trainer for a major tankless water heater.

    So, I think my opinion counts for a little something. I too have seen things come and go (Quest) and seen promises not live up to expectations. However if everyone had their head up their butt and refused to try new things in the field you sir would still be riding a horse to work and screwing galvanized pipe together. (Which I have also done)
    I advise anyone to keep an open mind on things and do their own homework! Instead of just spouting off something negative because you wish to show how smart you are.

    I donít know much more about this thing than you, however I do know someone who has it and wears by it that I trust. Once mine is in, Iíll report back. My guess is some people will still disregard it and thatís fine. Itís a free country...at least for a little while longer. Have a nice day.
    My you are a sensitive thing ... with all that knowledge, I would have thought by now you'd have answered numerous threads ... but instead heldout for this incredible breakthrough.

    Nothing personal, but have you ever heard the old cliche "if it's too good to be true...". Does it work ... I doubt it!

    My background is Engineering ... show me the data (not a silly testamonial). Oh, and I loved the video (again no data ... just a slick animation of the limescale melting like butter on a stove).

    If you buy this equipment, then you are just supporting this wacho science. I'll bet you could also find a time machine transport system if you googled it.

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    I can tell you stories about customers and friends buying these things. None of their stories had happy endings. 99K hit it right on the head. If it seems too good to be true, it is.

    I don't care what you hook up to a pipe, the mineral is still in the water and it will still stick to whatever it wants to. With or without that device.

    A lot of us argue and bicker on this Forum a lot, because we have differing opinions about things, but you are going to have to get up a lot earlier in the morning to get this to fly with these guys.

    We might be ugly; but we ain't stupid.

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    I haven't seen that specific model in use but I have seen a few other electronic anti-scale descale devices with wires you wrap around the pipe on both sides of the thing that did change the water.

    They caused a white powdery film on surfaces where the water was allowed to evaporate on; shower doors and walls, counters, sinks, they all looked like talcum power was blown all over them.

    So IMO there is something to them but no one knows how they do whatever they do to water and none of them do it all the time or in all locations on all different waters.

    Someday someone might be doing something and have one of those AHHA! light goes on moments and all will be explained. Like long run out landslides that scientists saw evidence all over the world but said since no one could prove a landslide was responsible, they denied it and ruined careers of those that insisted it was.

    Kinda like we thought stomach ulcers were caused by worry etc. until some guy down under finally proved his theory that it was a bacteria, Heliobacter Pylori bacteria to be specific; found in groundwater.
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    CAUTION, as of Nov 12 2013 all YouTube videos showing how to rebuild a Clack valve have an error in them that can cause damage.

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    honestly, i don't understand this but someone said that there was no explanation how it works. here's a link http://www.hydrocareusa.com/content/technology/

    again, not sure i understand it but there's also a tab on their site to a couple of independent tests - that means a lot more to me than the testimonials they post.

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    I looked the first time, I will not look again. Just keep planting links in this thread to drive traffic up web traffic and improve the google rating ... no thanks.

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