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    OK, still trying to fix my clogged sink. I got brave and removed the trap. The water drained fine into a bucket. Snaked it anyway up to the sink. The trap was clear. I realize I have a sewer snake instead of the crank kind, but I tried to snake the pipe that went into the wall. Was able to thread about 16-18 inches I think, and it won't go any further. Did a lot of in and out motion the best I could and put it back together and it's just as clogged as before. Is there anything else I could do before I get someone to fix it?

    Would the crank type of snake help? Something small from my vanity top must have fallen down there when I took out the stopper to make it drain faster. I would think though it would have gotten caught in the trap. The water also bubbles up out of the drain when it's going down.

    Any ideas would be most welcome...and no, I'm not trying to take away your jobs ;-)! Promise....LOL! Thanks!
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    I would recommend keeping trap on and let water stand in sink, auger thru opening in sink that way when you hit blockage you know the drain is open. If you take the trap off you don't know if you hit the blockage. For know it sounds like you are using a hand snake, if that is the case bend the tip of the snake to about a 45 degree angle, this will help you make the bend's and clear the pipe's as well. If you have older plumbing,problem's with improper drainage fitting's could play a role in having trouble unclogging sink.
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    A lot of times, when you leave the trap on and go through the drain hole, the sink will very suddenly empty. That's cause you punched a hole through the bottom of the trap.

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    I usually use a manual crank hand snake I needed to use it alot when my bathroom pipes were still galvanized.

    Thanks to my new friend PVC that is all in the past .

    However when I did need to snake often I found it helpful to remove the cleanout from the trap and snake from there. That is if you have a cleanout on your trap that is.

    If you are simply pushing a snake down the pipe (I used to have one of these they were quite useless to me) than all you will be doing is pushing the clog further down the line or maybe if your lucky putting a little hole in it.

    In order to pull a clog out the snake must rotate that way its corkscrew head acts like a screw going into wood piercing the clog and entangling it so you can pull it out or it simply breaks the clog up into little pieces so that it will well go down the drain.

    Even though a hand snake can produce acceptable results it can't compare to the job done by a professional motor driven auger.
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    Thanks guys! OK, was able to get the snake down the sink but it didn't help much. I did pull out a large mat of hair wrapped around a small brush that had fallen down there, and I thought that it was the end of my problem but it's not ;-(. Drains even slower now...darn. Now my bathtub seems clogged too where it wasn't earlier. Could they be connected in an apartment house? How far are you supposed to be able to get a snake into the line that comes from the wall?

    I have a ********* around the corner. I can get a crank snake there, and return it if it doesn't work they said. After that I give up. I would call someone from my building but my apartment's a mess ;-). Might have to anyway. Thanks again. Really appreciate you guys trying to help ;-).

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    hand augers are all but useless. What you probably have is years of hair and goop down the main line that will need a spade auger at the very least to clear.

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    It is possible you may have pushed the clog further down the line or it may be a much larger clog than you thought.

    When I finally removed my galvanized pipe and cut it in two what I saw inside was shocking to me there was a tiny hole the diameter of the snake.

    Thats when I realized that while it got the sink running again it still was just making a little hole in a sea of muck.

    If that is your situation then calling a plumber in with a motorized auger will chew that clog up for you .
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhmaster View Post
    A lot of times, when you leave the trap on and go through the drain hole, the sink will very suddenly empty. That's cause you punched a hole through the bottom of the trap.
    That is one of the reasons why I remove the trap to snake a line...
    Messes cause damage and consume time. Both of which can affect reputation and profit.

    Really sheellah,
    You do need a plumber!
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    I always remove the trap. It takes a couple seconds at best and makes inserting the snake that much easier than winding down through 3 additional bends. Besides that if the trap arm dumps into a san tee I can steer the cable either down or up if I want. What can possibly be saved by keeping the trap in place, 5 minutes? I also think that hand snakes are a waste of money. They don't have the cable size, versitility or cable length to be of much real use at all. If you get good results with one then bless you, you have figured out something that the rest of us have not. Even after 36 years of cleaning drains.

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    I don't think he can figure out anything yet!
    Evene when he is slapped upside the head with it!

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