Archibald Tuttle
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Got to admit I'm perplexed. this toilet had been flushing fine for 3 years but it's gone lazy. tenants complained it was not flushing to the point of leaking, i.e. spilling over, although I see no evidence of a serious leak or major overflow and the bowl is clean water. first snaked the toilet itself to make sure nothing was caught in the bend. then pulled the toilet. It is piped in 3" PVC that drops about a foot from the flange to an elbow, 3 feet more or less horizontal with 1/4" pitch to a tee wye on a vented 3" stack. I snaked the three feet to make sure there was nothing before the stack. I can see through the access that the stack is unimpeded and water flush flows smoothly to the stack from the toilet, but the flush action is lazy. not a convincing whirlpool but a seemingly slow fill (for a 3" flush valve) and then it declines with aching slowness to a weak vacuum glug glug grab.
I thought maybe the fluidmaster resilient rubber 'wax' ring might have been leaking a tiny bit of air that might have weakened the vacuum although no water coming out so not any massive seal failure, but I actually sealed it both sides with silicone to test this and no difference. I tried to fill the bowl a little fuller before flushing although there doesn't seem to be any problem with the bowl refill. that is really tough because you don't have to add much water before you get the identical weak flush. there is no obvious obstruction to the flush valve. I don't think the tenants have been in the tank and dropped any cleaning product in, but I suppose it is remotely possible something like a wipe has gone past the flush valve and it's is slowing the flush. I don't have other of these toilets in service so I can't make a comparison. Should I anticipate the stronger typical whirlpool from an entrada or . . . ?. I can take a movie of the flush. I should have when I was there and can append tomorrow but just looking for anyone who has had experience with this toilet. thanks, Brian
I thought maybe the fluidmaster resilient rubber 'wax' ring might have been leaking a tiny bit of air that might have weakened the vacuum although no water coming out so not any massive seal failure, but I actually sealed it both sides with silicone to test this and no difference. I tried to fill the bowl a little fuller before flushing although there doesn't seem to be any problem with the bowl refill. that is really tough because you don't have to add much water before you get the identical weak flush. there is no obvious obstruction to the flush valve. I don't think the tenants have been in the tank and dropped any cleaning product in, but I suppose it is remotely possible something like a wipe has gone past the flush valve and it's is slowing the flush. I don't have other of these toilets in service so I can't make a comparison. Should I anticipate the stronger typical whirlpool from an entrada or . . . ?. I can take a movie of the flush. I should have when I was there and can append tomorrow but just looking for anyone who has had experience with this toilet. thanks, Brian
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