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Pretty much the double cyclone system but with one jet only. Interesting to see how it performs...
Now that AS is owned by INAX, Toto's biggest rival in Japan, we will likely see more of this. INAX really failed to get much traction when it entered the US market for porcelain under its own brand a few years ago, so its new strategy was to buy a moribund AS and remake AS's lines with INAX-inspired products under the US-familiar AS brand name. They arguably make a better bidet seat than Toto, so look for AS to really start pushing those, too.
I saw elsewhere that this toilet has two flappers - one leading to the rim jet and one for the outlet jet. There is a 10-year warranty on the parts and china, so parts may not be a big issue until year 11.
I had some concerns about repair parts but with the warranty they should be available for a while and I think AS will be committed to this or a similar design because of how well it works. Plus as long as the teeter bar and other components don't fail, I think the flappers can be replaced with universal type flappers. Just a guess, I'm not a plumber but I have repaired some toilets in the past.
Those flappers or seals don't look like anything I've ever seen. Until something has been around for a while, it's tough to say how long a part will be continued. The first Champion flush tower was in use for a year or so before it was pulled. No plumber is going to install a toilet with a "ten year warranty" and come back every few years to change out parts when there is a design fail. The ten year may get you parts from American Standard by mail, but it doesn't get them installed. Like everything new, we learn more after a number of years have gone by. I've seen many cool ideas that have come, and gone...........
That was a Consumers Report "Best Buy" that quickly became orphaned
The PF/2 was a two flusher, mainly if you wanted clear water for the next person.
Mine lasted maybe two months before the women in the home made me change it.
That was a Consumers Report "Best Buy" that quickly became orphaned.
As of Nov 12, 2014, the Home Depot site shows 33 glowing reviews for the American Standard Optum VorMax model. However, after closer inspection, all the reviews appear suspiciously similar in writing style and seem like an AS promotional campaign. Of course, Home Depot censored my review (as usual) that attempted to point this out. If my observation is correct, this is a reflection of desperation on American Standard (and their parent company). If the toilet works as great as they hope, I want to hear the actual opinions from homeowners that bought it; not from someone that received it as a promotional gift whose "review" was obviously filtered by an AS corporate PR person.
The one on the left is the rim jet and the one on the right is for the siphon bottom jet.Just judging by the look of the mechanics, it appears one flapper is designed to open ahead of the other, and by the spacing of the floats above the flappers, one is designed to close before the other. So which flapper controls the rim jet, and which controls the priming jet? By the way, two 2-inch flappers figures out to be about 6.28 sq inches, while one 3-inch flapper is about 7.07 sq inches.
I think it because they are seed reviews.As of Nov 12, 2014, the Home Depot site shows 33 glowing reviews for the American Standard Optum VorMax model. However, after closer inspection, all the reviews appear suspiciously similar in writing style and seem like an AS promotional campaign. Of course, Home Depot censored my review (as usual) that attempted to point this out. If my observation is correct, this is a reflection of desperation on American Standard (and their parent company). If the toilet works as great as they hope, I want to hear the actual opinions from homeowners that bought it; not from someone that received it as a promotional gift whose "review" was obviously filtered by an AS corporate PR person.
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