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Terry
01-11-2006, 10:30 AM
Clorox® Toilet Bowl Cleaner with TEFLON Surface Protector

Will I be able to see the TEFLON® Surface Protector on my toilet surfaces?


No, the TEFLON® Surface Protector is invisible. In fact, TEFLON® Surface Protector modifies bathroom surfaces at a microscopic level and is far thinner than the width of a human hair.

Does a film build up over time on toilet surfaces?

No, once the invisible TEFLON® Surface Protector is in place, subsequent layers cannot build up on top of it.

How long will toilet surfaces be protected?

Laboratory tests indicate that the protective TEFLON® Surface Protector of Clorox® Toilet Bowl Cleaner with TEFLON® Surface Protector lasts for approximately 140 flushes before it begins to wear away.

What is the advantage of having the TEFLON® Surface Protector in the toilet?

The invisible layer that is applied to the surface by Clorox Toilet Bowl Cleaner with TEFLON® Surface Protector acts as a protective barrier against tough bathroom grime (such as rust or hard water stains in the toilet). Because these stains don't stick to the treated surfaces, the bathroom will stay cleaner longer. And, because it is harder for dirt and grime to stick to bathroom surfaces, subsequent cleanings may also be easier.

Will I still have to clean if I use a TEFLON® Surface Protector product?

Yes, because the invisible layers of TEFLON® Surface Protector wear away after time, repeated application of the products is necessary. However, the TEFLON® Surface Protector technology can help make cleaning easier by applying an invisible shield that helps prevents stains from adhering to bathroom surfaces.

jk60
01-11-2006, 07:09 PM
Terry,

Forgive my confusion. Is this a new product that you've run accross or is this a product that you have experience with and you recommend?

Thank you,

Jerry

Terry
01-11-2006, 08:01 PM
I've used it.

It does keep the bowl cleaner.

jk60
01-11-2006, 08:53 PM
Thank you for the information!!!

Jerry

Dellar
01-12-2006, 07:21 AM
I use this product, it works great. I'm glad somebody thought of this. The regular spray surface cleaner works really good too on sinks, tubs, etc.

Spokaneman
01-13-2006, 07:44 AM
Is this ok to use with SaniGloss?

Terry
01-13-2006, 09:22 AM
I'm finding out the hard way. I'm using it on all my toilets, included the Sanigloss Ultramax.

I will keep you updated.

Snowman
01-27-2006, 06:53 PM
I've got to tell everyone about my experience with this product. In twenty words or less...... IT WORKS !!! :)

Thanks Terry, it does just what it is supposed to do even those areas that are on the sides of the bowl. I love to find a product that works. :rolleyes:
see ya, Tom

Mike50
01-28-2006, 07:30 PM
Yup. Great product worth talking about. It's a winner. I experimented with the slippery-ness just by rubbing it between my thumb and index finger and it is far more slippery than oils or silicone imo.

It is unlike so many of these products that are marginal or just rely on the cleansing property of water.

Lasting for 140 flushes? maybe, I suppose.
I think that would depend on the amount of debris-not just number of flushes. Perhaps different in every home, is my non professional guess.

When they find out how well it works they will probably start marketing Teflon toothpaste etc....lol.

alternety
09-27-2006, 09:20 AM
Terry - how did the Teflon work on the Sanigloss. Any better or worse than Sanigloss alone. My gut feeling is that it would have a harder time sticking to Sanigloss. Sending micro-nano particles into a septic system may be a long term problem.

OldPete
09-28-2006, 02:22 PM
I am about to install the Kohler Cimmaron -- I have heard that keeping it clean is NOT easy... Part of me wants to return it, and buy the Toto, another part of me says that *this* may be a help...

Funny, seeing how I don't even know if I'm going to have a problem keeping the Kohler clean.

But thanks for the info. :)

Pete

maddog
09-28-2006, 02:33 PM
I installed a Cimarron (elongated) with a Fluidmaster Flush 'n Sparkle gizmo (http://www.fluidmaster.com/care_products_8300.html) and haven't had any problems keeping it clean. I installed the bleach formula to keep my wife from throwing those chemical disks into the tank!!

Terry
09-28-2006, 04:45 PM
Teflon on the Sanigloss.
That's what I've been using.
I flushed it the other day, and whoosh, it was all gone! I don't mean the Teflon, the other stuff was gone.

The Sanigloss is nice.

alternety
09-28-2006, 07:28 PM
I have a problem with my internal workings and diarreha is an ongoing and daily problem. Is there anything better than the UltiMax + Sanigloss for keeping the bowel clean under these circumstances?

Terry
09-28-2006, 07:46 PM
I was all ready to try the new Toto Soriee with Cyclone flush, but then I got a call and I sold it before I could install it. The Ultramax with Sanagloss does work pretty well though. That's what I have downstairs.

That one has Sanagloss and has water swirling around the bowl.
I have another one on order, this time I better just install it right away for myself. It will be going in the Master.

Jeff1
09-29-2006, 09:34 AM
I am about to install the Kohler Cimmaron -- I have heard that keeping it clean is NOT easy... Part of me wants to return it, and buy the Toto, another part of me says that *this* may be a help...

Funny, seeing how I don't even know if I'm going to have a problem keeping the Kohler clean.

I have the Cimmaron - standard bowl - and don't have any problems keeping it clean. If there is any residue on the bowl, the next flush seems to take care of it. This product does seem like it will make it even better though. Thanks Terry.

mekump
10-18-2006, 05:21 PM
Hello,

So, what were you all using prior to this on the toilets with Sanigloss?

Mike

jadnashua
10-18-2006, 07:08 PM
A swish with a brush was all it usually took.

mneubecker
10-19-2006, 08:03 PM
I am about to install the Kohler Cimmaron -- I have heard that keeping it clean is NOT easy... Part of me wants to return it, and buy the Toto, another part of me says that *this* may be a help...

Funny, seeing how I don't even know if I'm going to have a problem keeping the Kohler clean.

But thanks for the info. :)

Pete

take my word for it, return the cimmaron and go with the toto

roboman
10-22-2006, 06:28 AM
take my word for it, return the cimmaron and go with the toto
I would not recommend that. I have the Drake and it does not clean very well. You can see that the water goes straight down without an swirling that helps clean the bowl.

asuwish
11-10-2006, 08:39 PM
Sigh...

Flushing teflon down the drain just doesn't seem right. The chemicals end up in the ocean (specifically PFOA) - in the fish - and wow - you get the teflon that you purchased right back again, even more concentrated, except this time it stays in your system (and your kids' or grandkids' systems) until death; perhaps even an untimely death. I turn pale at the thought of millions of Americans using this product.

A little inconvenience or cancer? I recommend the brush.

Check out this site for a brief study on the effects of Teflon on our little blue/green planet and those who inhabit it:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/realitycheck/sheppard/20060620.html

Cass
11-11-2006, 03:09 AM
I dont think it contains any PFOA / perfluorooctanoic acid, the problem part of the teflon products. I have sent an E mail off to find out and will post the answer when I receive a reply.

Mikey
11-11-2006, 07:58 AM
I mentioned in another post on another thread, probably, that our local supermarket no longer sells Clorox with Teflon -- they marked it "discontinued" and sold their remaining stock at 2/$5. Don't know why.

Cass
11-11-2006, 08:03 AM
not selling fast enough is normaly the reason.

Mike50
11-11-2006, 08:09 AM
I dont think it contains any PFOA / perfluorooctanoic acid, the problem part of the teflon products. I have sent an E mail off to find out and will post the answer when I receive a reply.

This debate is relatively new and worth watching.

Mayoclinic study here:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/teflon/AN01293

Lets see some definitive conclusions on human studies first. I'm Not jumping on any band wagon yet.

You aren't going to like this asuwish but many of us do Not consider the CBC as a reliable unbiased news source for Americans. It's an Ultra Liberal Canadian Government mouthpiece.
But thanks for the heads up on the issue...

Canada is the first and only country to ban some forms of the chemical in the manufacturing process. The studies just are not conclusive however according to your CBC article.

The current EPA position is as follows:

{excerpt}

..At the same time, the EPA said there is no reason for consumers to stop using any products containing PFOA provided they don't heat them to well above normal temperatures or abuse them in some other way. That is also Environment Canada's take as well..."

Mike

jadnashua
11-11-2006, 10:53 AM
As Mike noted, the accepted problem with this is the oveheated vapors, not something you'd notice in the solid particles at room temperature. I thought I read that some prothesis' use it, too. The wear and tear of an artificial joint would put solid particles into the bloodstream and various places. If it gets superheated in the toilet, stop lighting the farts!

camjo98686
12-09-2007, 05:37 PM
I've been reading all your good reviews about the Clorox with Teflon - - but I'm thinking they are maybe dated/old or else I'm just lost!

I don't see the product on the Clorox site. I do see one supplier on Amazon.com (strange place to find toilet bowl cleaners) but it's 59.95 for a 23oz squeexe bottle. Is this right? Or am I just doing something wrong!!

And, while I'm at it - - would it be good for a cast iron tub?

Thanks for any insights.

Mikey
12-09-2007, 06:10 PM
Wow. I just looked at the bottles I've got left, they're the 23-oz bottles you saw on Amazon, but the last two I bought were 2 for $2.29. Should have bought more of these instead of gold ingots. I see a 12-pack of 2.47oz bottles, which makes no sense at all, on another site where we all get lots of cheap stuff. I'd like to know what's going on also. My experience has been that it's worth 2/$2.29, but not $40 each.

I wouldn't use it in the tub.

tonykarns
12-10-2007, 12:59 AM
Teflon was invented in the 1930s by DuPont, the US firm which uses it today to make non-stick cookware, and also markets it as a coating for clothes and carpets.

The company recently agreed to an out-of-court settlement to a class action lawsuit brought by around 50,000 residents who lived near its West Virginia plant.

The residents, who lived along the Ohio river south of Parkersburg, West Virginia, claimed the company had contaminated local water supplies with PFOA, which they alleged was linked to birth defects and other health hazards.

DuPont eventually agreed to pay $50m in cash to the plaintiffs, plus $22m in legal costs. The company also agreed to spend $10m on special water treatment facilities to filter out PFOA.

Now, environmental campaigners on both sides of the Atlantic want to ban the controversial chemical.

"PFOA accumulates in the body and in the environment and studies on animals suggest a link to birth defects. We are very concerned about it," says Karine Pellaumail, from Friends of the Earth.

Dr Tim Kropp, a toxicologist working for the Environmental Working Group in the US says tests carried out by the US firm 3M suggested high doses of PFOA led to various forms of cancer in rats.

But DuPont disagrees. "There is no evidence that PFOA is harmful," says its director of media relations, Clifton Webb. "We are very confident that there are no health effects associated with the public's exposure to PFOA at the levels we have seen."

FACTS ABOUT TEFLON

Invented in US in 1930s
1946, first marketed by DuPont as Teflon
Has the lowest coefficient of friction of any solid material known to man
Found on pots, pans, overcoats, bullets and pine lining
But, he accepts that, in high enough doses, PFOA could be carcinogenic to animals.

Last year the American Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) launched an investigation into the chemical's effects, a study which is being watched by the British government.

It acknowledges "considerable scientific uncertainties" on the issue but says there is no reason anyone should stop using Teflon products.

But the EPA is expected to submit a more comprehensive risk analysis next month.

jrbales
12-15-2007, 02:15 AM
I am about to install the Kohler Cimmaron -- I have heard that keeping it clean is NOT easy... Part of me wants to return it, and buy the Toto, another part of me says that *this* may be a help...

Funny, seeing how I don't even know if I'm going to have a problem keeping the Kohler clean.

But thanks for the info. :)

Pete

Pete: Listen to the part of you that says return it and buy the Toto. You won't be disappointed! I've had my Toto Ultramax for nearly three years now and won't even consider any other brand if I ever have to buy a new toilet(s) again. It's beautiful and simply the best at what it does. It may cost a little extra but it's well worth it :D

marvinfinnley
07-30-2008, 10:19 PM
I'm finding out the hard way. I'm using it on all my toilets, included the Sanigloss Ultramax.

I will keep you updated.

Terry, currently the Clorox site does not list the Teflon cleaner you recommended as a product. Is it still current? If not, is Gel Gloss your preferred replacement bowl cleaner product? I have two Toto toilets, and we don't want to damage the bowls of these expensive toilets. What do you recommend?

Marv Finnley

gregbooras
08-01-2008, 07:16 AM
Terry,

Do you use the drop in the tank Cleaner or the spray?

Thanks Greg


Teflon on the Sanigloss.
That's what I've been using.
I flushed it the other day, and whoosh, it was all gone! I don't mean the Teflon, the other stuff was gone.

The Sanigloss is nice.

Terry
08-01-2008, 11:04 AM
I haven't seen the Teflon cleaner for a while.
I've been using the liquid Lysol or Clorox cleaner lately.

Ian Gills
08-04-2008, 09:26 AM
I have just ordered some drop in the tank clorox teflon. If they really are the teflon ones, I'll let you know how they go.

With my Cadet 3.

Cookie
08-04-2008, 09:36 AM
I checked the sites that were selling it, but it has been discontinued.

Ian Gills
08-04-2008, 12:15 PM
Are you following me Cookie?

I went here.

http://www.amazon.com/Clorox-00949-Bowl-Tab-Cleaner/dp/B000JJFPS4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1217877369&sr=8-1

A few places propose that they sell it, but my guess is that they will just send the ordinary blue to me.

I have ordered six. I'll let you know either way.

Ian Gills
08-04-2008, 03:00 PM
Update: Ouch. Cookie was right.

"We're sorry, but the following order from Polsteins Home & Beyond has been canceled because the items you purchased were out of stock. Please return and attempt to purchase again at a later time. "

I am going to try another seller but my choices are running slim.

Cookie
08-04-2008, 03:16 PM
I am always right, even when I am wrong. :D
They discontinued it. I had a link to it and had even taken it down because I didn't want people to think it was still working. Ah, well...back to other products. Did you say you bought the ones in a tablet with Teflon? If so, where did you buy it, I would try those even.

exoricst
06-18-2011, 09:02 AM
So now that this product is discontinued. And i have my Toto Ultramax II and Drake II installed, and now using it and loveeee it, kindly let me know on what i should be using to clean it.
This is what i used to use on my previous toilets.. are they good for SaniGloss??
The generic Lysol (http://www.lysol.com/cleaning-products/complete-clean/power-toilet-bowl-cleaner)

jadnashua
06-18-2011, 11:35 AM
I think you'll find anything that isn't acidic that could etch the surface, or abrasive that could scratch it should work. The Sanaglos glazing is smoother than 'normal' glazes. Anything that compromises that will hurt it's performance.

alternety
06-18-2011, 11:52 AM
Having this thread tagged has reminded me of this issue. I just read the label of Lysol liquid toilet cleaner. It has about 10% Hydrogen Chloride. In an aqueous base that is market speak for Hydrochloric Acid. If jadnashua is correct, Lysol is a no-no. And I have used it on Sanigloss a few times.

exoricst
06-18-2011, 10:03 PM
ok.. so what to use on sanagloss??