Best Toto 1.28 gpf that is ADA compliant?

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Hi, I run a Residential Care Facility for the Elderly and want to buy new ultra low flow toilets. I'm new to the forum and from what I've read, it seems that Toto is generally a highly regarded brand in terms of quality.

I'm intereted in the best Toto 1.28 gpf that is ADA compliant. Price is a consideration, but quality is also a consideration. Ideally, I'd be looking for the best combination of quality and price.

Does anyone have an opinion about the best Toto 1.28 gpf that is ADA compliant? Thanks in advance for any info you have.
 
My vote is the Gwyneth. Put 2 of them into my house last month and highly recommend them. 1.28 gpf, ADA, CEFIONTECT, and Double Cyclone bowl wash! Has handled everything we've been able to throw at it.

Plus, the one-piece Gwyneth looks sleek and modern.

[video=youtube;Xn9_zctMge0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn9_zctMge0[/video]
 
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With elderly involved The only Gwyneth I'd consider would be the 2 Pc ADA EL model. I would not consider the 1 pc...

Some things about those old guys they can test a toilet.
I'd want the extra oompf of the Drake or at least the 2 pc. Gwyneth...

As far as Price the Drake takes it...
 
Sure, Drake wins the price war.

Not sure why several folks have worried about the ability of the one-piece Gwyneth to handle big loads - it does have a somewhat lower MaP score, but as Terry has told us, anything over 500 is good and individual differences in number over 500 are not meaningful.

I can attest to the one-piece Gwyneth being able to handle serious challenges! Has never hiccuped or required a 2nd flush. I think its flush is better than the Soiree.
 
The elderly can be a real test I assure you...

The Caroma might even be a better choice...

We are not talking normal stuff here...
Pain Killers...
Heart meds....
MaP means nothing to some of these guys...
They Plug up 1,000 GmPF toilets like it's a walk in the park....
 
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Yes, they can be tough on the appliances. With the elderly, you never know what the'll do next,but you know they'll do it! :)

Thanks for the info. Is there a performance advantage for either the one-piece or the two-piece?
 
See a parallel thread about another satisfied one-piece Gwyneth owner ...


Don't want to be argumentative, but from my (admittedly limited) experience, and Terry's discussions of how MaP scores don't tell the whole story, I wouldn't worry about differences in test scores between one-piece and two-piece Gwyneth toilets. I did have those same concerns before putting in my 2 units, but honestly, not something to worry about.
 
I think I read somewhere (probably here), that the one-piece was easier to clean since it's a solid unit. And since there is no gap between the tank and the bowl piece, in which errant "material" could accumulate, more sanitary. While that's important in a facility for the elderly, I'm actually more concerned with the performance.
 
SteveW said:
See a parallel thread about another satisfied one-piece Gwyneth owner ...


Don't want to be argumentative, but from my (admittedly limited) experience, and Terry's discussions of how MaP scores don't tell the whole story, I wouldn't worry about differences in test scores between one-piece and two-piece Gwyneth toilets. I did have those same concerns before putting in my 2 units, but honestly, not something to worry about.
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I'll tell you what...
Why don't we just test this theory of Steve's out that it doesn't matter...
Get a 1 pc. Gwyneth ADA CST604CEF OR MS604114CEF that MaPs at 500 GmPF...
And an Eco-Drake ADA CST744EL that MaP's at 900GmPF...
Put each of them in a place where they will get similar traffic and see which one has fewer problems....

Post back and let us know who is right.

I say Terry is spot on with what he says but that woulkd apply in a situation with normal use in a home...

Try applying that in your situation and the difference will be noticed.

Maybe the loser should have a disclaimer in their autosignature about the quality of their advice for a month...
Personally I'm thinking you might even want the Caroma instead of the Drake but heck...
What do I know?

I just know that at the right age with the right meds some of these guys are poopin 10" long pieces of rebar...
 
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You guys are great! You are making me laugh. Thanks for all the good advice. I'll check out the prices from my local dealer and see which makes the most sense. Thanks again.
 
Go with Redwood's advice. It would help if I read the original post! Didn't realize you are talking about a commercial facility. Although the one-piece Gwyneth could work just fine, it does make sense to hedge your bets under your circumstances and go for the highest performance you can get.
 
In the real world, some of the toilets that are high on the mapp score are dogs in real life...some shread things, splash, and you end up flushing again to get rid of everything. Most of the Totos would work fine in a commercial setting.

IF you have people with a medical condition that produces extremely long, hard stools, then you may want to consider the Caroma...it has a larger diameter trapway than just about anything out there. But, for normal people, it just doesn't matter. Think about a pound of sticks of butter...it's about the right diameter, and 1000 grams is over two pounds...lay out eight sticks in a row...I don't think anyone can lay one that big. 500 grams is plenty!
 
jadnashua said:
IF you have people with a medical condition that produces extremely long, hard stools, then you may want to consider the Caroma...it has a larger diameter trapway than just about anything out there. But, for normal people, it just doesn't matter.
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In a Residential Care Facility for the Elderly...:eek:
You just may want to think of the Drake as a minimum...
And look at the Caroma...

I knew that auto signature thing would make Steve blink.... LOL
 
I like redwoods advice. Changeover just two or three units in the rooms that you always need to plunge. Then you can see in the real poop world what is the best option. In the end, I would still hedge your bet and go with the higher mpa unit such as the Drake.
 
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