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edwardh3

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They seem to be on south east coast
home depot- GE (Rheem made?)
Lowes- Whirlpool - (American water heater made?)

Does this mean there are no A O smith heaters in box stores?
 

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Wasn't this exact question just answered? Whirlpool is junk, do not buy. Smith is only sold to licensed plumbers, so you can't get one on your own. GE/Rheem is sold by HD and is an excellent heater.
 

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They seem to be on south east coast
home depot- GE (Rheem made?) IN MEXICO
Lowes- Whirlpool - (American water heater made?) IN MEXICO

Does this mean there are no A O smith heaters in box stores?


Proper etiquette on the internet is to keep all your comments in the same thread. Just confuses people and tics them off when out of the blue you sidetrack the discussion over to a new thread.
 
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Wasn't this exact question just answered? Whirlpool is junk, do not buy. Smith is only sold to licensed plumbers, so you can't get one on your own. GE/Rheem is sold by HD and is an excellent heater.

in my city a o smith brand is sold to anyone with money. I bought mine that way myself 16 years ago. I am not a plumber.
 

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Smith is now junk

go to sears and buy one of their water heaters if
you want a Smith knock off ... they will give you the same greif...

Smith makes Sears and smith makes State....

Smith is trying to get their foot into the box store market...

they are still junk only slightly better than whilrpool
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Now ...new information I have rcently heard from my sales rep

Smith has went out and Bought....... American Water heaters....
to be able to get their foot into the Box stores through LOWES..

The only small heater company left standing out there

that has not been bough up is More Flow.... and they are junk too.....

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so

the only real "not junk" brand is Rheem, which is Japanese owned I think, , which is sold in box stores as GE at Home depot?
Right?
is that the summary?
 

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heaters

If you want to know which is the "not junk" heater, stand outside the store's door for about a week and count how many heaters are being returned under warranty, especially the ones that were just purchased. EVERY brand has them, although the ones for the big box stores seem to have more of them, GE included.
 

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I have noticed lately that a lot of my beat water heater calls are GE/Rheem failing shortly after the 6 year mark. Some just before! I'd say all big box is junk! I install Bradford White!

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Rheem corporation, which makes water heater under the brands mentioned, and HVAC under Rheem, Ruud, Duroguard, and probably other brands.....is a Division of the Paloma Corp. ( Japanese ). Rheem stuff is all genuine American ( North American, that is, mostly Mexico).

Rheem is well respected. The GE models in the depot are a slightly cheapened up version of the Rheem branded models.

As far as all the other brands, there was a time ( pre 2003) when you could not make a good case about significant quality differences. Every brand makes a good-better-best assortment. I had a State in my condo for 17 years , and I replaced it just because it was old. It was still working. State was basically a builders brand, middle of the road, but it held up.

Then came FVIR in July 2003. Rheem, and probably Bradford White, invested significant engineering into the design to ensure their units would not have the failures and maintenance issues which the Whirlpool is classic for.

It seems the same thing has happend with the Ultra Low Nox water heaters for SCAQMD. Rheem got the design right, others....we'll see.




If you are shopping for a water heater, you should have the point by now that the folks here would recommend a Rheem, or GE, or Bradford White. The principal risk with the GE if you do it yourself, they have some incidence of damage in handling in the store. If you take home a bummer, you will be on the hook for the labor to uninstall it and take it back for a swap.
 

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bradford is best then rheem

Rheem have an annoying habit of going out at
about 6 years and 3 months out.. but they have
a pretty good design so far....

Smith have the same problem but usually
they go out at about 5 years out.....

Bradford seems to have the best "hang time"
and I have had no FVIR difficulties....they seem to
last about 9 years



I have been dealing with the A.O. smiths lately
a lot and I am finding that the 2003 FVIR junk that
they started selling is now beginning to clog up
pretty badly with LINT. in the laundry rooms....

tomorrow (tuesday)
I get to go out and gut a 2004 40 gallon Smith heater
and blow out all the lint from underneath and from the
inside of the damn thing...then put on another thermostat
total estimate $295.00


http://www.weilhammerplumbing.com/products/
 
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Ive done my homework

I will be purchasing a 9 yr 40 gal. Gas GE from HDepot, aka Rheem.
I have a Rheem that is 12 years old and I am just gonna change it cause I dont wanna be caught with my drawers down.
Local cost $389 tax not included.
The 9yr has a couple of bells and whistles the 6 yr does not.
 

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I'd rather have a RHEEM from a local supply house than one from Home Cheapo.

I have a powervent that was installed once, started leaking for an actual home depot associate! No privileges either.

Replaced it the second time, started leaking

Third time I referred it away as the circuitry of the unit was malfunctioning.


They're paying for it, literally every 2 years.
 

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I will be purchasing a 9 yr 40 gal. Gas GE from HDepot, aka Rheem.
I have a Rheem that is 12 years old and I am just gonna change it cause I dont wanna be caught with my drawers down.
Local cost $389 tax not included.
The 9yr has a couple of bells and whistles the 6 yr does not.


Lucky you don't live in LA County ( Calif ). That puppy runs about $575....just for the unit. Install extra. ( Ultra Low Nox spec)
 

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Are you guys talking about electric or gas?

I gather you are talking about gas.
 

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I have a AO Smith that was installed 1/1972 and is still working fine. 50 gallon with a 65k burner might have something to do with it.:)
 
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