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coyote556
07-24-2007, 07:55 PM
Can anyone offer any advise on this. I screwed up and tiled this floor right up to the 3"abs opening in a concrete floor. I bought an inside closet flange for 3" abs, however the problem is the flange has a small shelf on the bottom of it, which makes it sit up too hight off the floor for the toilet to go flush. I was wondering if I could just attach a closet ring to the floor with Tapcons, to hold the toilet bolts in place, and use a wax ring with a horn? As you can see from the pictures, the top edge of the 3" abs is only 3/8" below the level surface of the tile. I appreciate any help and advice. Thanks

frenchie
07-24-2007, 08:41 PM
Inside pipe cutter.

Verdeboy
07-24-2007, 08:49 PM
Can you chisel away some of that tile, so your flange will sit flush?

BAPlumber
07-24-2007, 11:39 PM
Can you chisel away some of that tile, so your flange will sit flush?

If you can chisel (knock out) enough tile to get your flange to set flush, great. there are a "hundred" different flanges out there and one would problably work for you.

I once found a 3" solid abs closet flange that would fit in my confined space (without the "shelf"). My supplier didn't have what I needed, but when we went to see what they had, I found what I needed. sometimes they put back into stock, products that are returned, and were from other sources.

coyote556
07-25-2007, 05:57 AM
If I start busting on that tile, how big of a risk do I run of it shattering where it will be visible even after the toilet is set?

jadnashua
07-25-2007, 06:38 AM
WIth a Dremel tool or maybe a rotozip and some craftmanship, you could probably grind away the ridge on the flange that is preventing it from getting flush

markts30
07-25-2007, 01:48 PM
A diamond wheel on an angle grinder should allow you to score thetile surface and allow you to chip it back enough to put the flange on...

master plumber mark
07-25-2007, 03:15 PM
that dont too tooo bad

they do make a flange that will go into the
inside of the 3 inch pipe

why dont you go out and buy one for 5 bucks
and see if it does not just fall into place???

coyote556
07-25-2007, 03:30 PM
I like the diamond wheel idea. As for the inside 3" flange, that is what I am using, however it has a small "shelf" on the bottom side of it and this "shelf" is keeping the flange from going flush with the floor.

mrmedic
07-25-2007, 05:23 PM
coyote556 , Before you try to chisel the tile use a glass cutter to scribe a line where you want the tile to brake. Like maybe 1/4" out from where the flange would be. Then use a chisel and take out a little at a time. That should do it.

Ron

frenchie
07-25-2007, 08:06 PM
Is the "shelf" hitting the tile, the excess mortar, or the pipe?

coyote556
07-25-2007, 08:35 PM
It is hitting the tile

geniescience
07-26-2007, 12:25 AM
somebody already made a nice clean cut in that tile. It looks like a big notch in a big tile.

Somebody comfortable with a grinder will be able to kick up some dust when they shape that straightedged hole into the shape required to make everything fit.

david

hj
07-26-2007, 07:50 AM
A hammer and a small chisel will remove the tile, but I would NEVER use a flange that inserts into a 3" pipe. I would cut the concrete away on the outside first and use a conventional flange.

palmstate
07-27-2007, 02:48 PM
Using a flange that fits inside a 3" pipe is asking for trouble as you are immediatley reducing the size of the pipe. The same goes with the horned wax rings.

geniescience
07-27-2007, 03:44 PM
whether to use a drill to get holes started, and then use a hammer and small chisel, or whether to use a grinder, depends on your comfort level.

dav id