Hot Water Heater

jhill1229 · Jun 12, 2007

I have been quoted $997.00 for a 50 gallon State Select natural gas water heater. Installation is in attic and will include removal and disposal of old unit. This seems high! It is an emergency of course, as far as hot water can be an emergency.

For comparisons, I live in Tennessee.

Thanks for you opinions.

Jimbo · Jun 12, 2007

Around here, the home stores would get about $750 to $800 for a "normal" install of a 50 gallon gas heater. Plus or minus depending on what warranty level of tank you choose. An attic install is not "normal" so anyone is going to have to tack on for that. Also, any installer including the home store will bill extra if they have to bring the install up to code, such as correcting the TP piping, etc. Your price sounds in the ball park.

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Toolaholic · Jun 12, 2007

Sounds fair to Me. Of course If you shop around You You can probably find a guy Who sleeps in a bus and burns the house down.

jhill1229 · Jun 12, 2007

Thanks.

The job was made more difficult by the outstanding performance of my old heater. The Rheem I had was 14 years old. It was still consistently delivering hot water as requested. I was in the attic on Saturday and saw rust streaks on the exterior. I had someone come out on Monday to replace what I knew was a leaking tank. When the installer got into it he discovered the the entire insulation of the old unit was soaked. It had obviously been leaking for some time but the Rheem insulation held it together and kept on working.

I wish I had been given the opportunity to choose a Rheem for replacement, but I didn't think to ask for it. I hope the State works as well.

hj · Jun 12, 2007

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depending on the attic access, I might not even have touched it for that price. A new Rheem might have given the same performance or it might have started leaking in 3 years. The life of one water heater has absolutely no relevence to the life of its replacement.

Dunbar Plumbing · Jun 12, 2007

Wouldn't touch it for a grand

I've done a few, the kind with the pull-down steps to the attic.

Also, those heaters have to be put in a pan, piped out to grade and can't indirect the T&P into the pan. *210 degrees turns that 1" PVC pipe into caramel quick*. Takes two men and preparation H suppositories to get that new one up to the attic; the old one you just drop and it goes through the floor to the basement.

Kordts · Jun 12, 2007

That seems like a real good price for the homeowner.

Master Plumber Mark · Jun 13, 2007

State Select heaters are junk.....

The price is not the issue here....

that product is sub standard and will not
live out the tank warranty without giveing you
problems.... most will leak in less than 5 years....

but now to add insult to injury...

the air intake on this unit is just like the SMITH and
will not last long without troubles...it will most likely
start to suck up what ever kind of fibergalss insulation
you presently have in your attic...and burn out the internals

the price is ok

If you are still shopping for a heater
....
try to see if he will do a Bradford white or Rheem for the same price....

SMITH makes STATE...and both are sub-standard

scroll down this page and see the pics I took of a few fairley new
SMITH AND STATE heaters I removed due to lint build up....

the one in the pan with all the lint I
personally installed and is only 9 months old.
and I threw it out an put in a RHEEM

http://www.weilhammerplumbing.com/galleryi/

hj · Jun 13, 2007

heater

That is one way to vent your spleen and engage in hyperbole all in one posting. Now tell us how you really feel about State/Peerless/AOSmith/etc., heaters.

Dunbar Plumbing · Jun 13, 2007

Yeah

MPM has me tossing my heater and drawing hot water from my stove top.

In essence of all FVIR technology, the goal is to stop any transfer of ignition of flammable liquids/steams/gases in through that combustion chamber.

What I don't understand is why they don't "flute" those air chambers up to the top of the heater or on the sides, instead of pulling air from the lowest point of the heater. The GE's I believe have the inlet screens up about 15" off the floor.

Naturally a distance issue comes into play on regular vented gas heaters but the PowerVents shouldn't have that implication.

Master Plumber Mark · Jun 13, 2007

hey ...whatever.....

sorry about the lecture.... or an ..... engage in hyperbole?????

I got a real problem with SMITH AND STATE...and Whirlpool

probably the best design for the money is the RHEEM as far as not clogging up with lint.

but it can give you troubles if it catches fire and shuts down

all in all I have had the best luck so far with the Bradford white......

I dont know wether I would really want to fool with a
heater in the attic either........

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