Toilet Overflow, leaks from under the bowl

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I've had my toilet overflow and I'm not sure but in one of the pics it looks like something is broken. Can somebody see if something is broken and needs to be replaced.

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Time for a new toilet. That may not solve all of your problems, but a modern toilet will not overflow with one flush. There is not enough volume in a flush to fill up the bowl. I did not look at your photos. Does the existing toilet have antique or sentimental value to you?
 

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Time for a new toilet. That may not solve all of your problems, but a modern toilet will not overflow with one flush. There is not enough volume in a flush to fill up the bowl. I did not look at your photos. Does the existing toilet have antique or sentimental value to you?
Pictures clearly show a modern toilet, why would the toilet need replaced? however the overflow hose is mispositioned probably just a stoppage.
 

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Pictures clearly show a modern toilet, why would the toilet need replaced? however the overflow hose is mispositioned probably just a stoppage.
I , probably incorrectly, interpreted overflow as onto the floor, and probably OP was referring to water down the overflow tube.

So in that case, the Fluidmaster seal may need replacing. https://www.fluidmaster.com/products/toilet/fill-valves/242-toilet-replacement-seal/
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Fluidma...Valve-Seal-for-400A-Fill-Valves-242/100580550

Or a new fill valve could be in order.
 
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Time for a new toilet. That may not solve all of your problems, but a modern toilet will not overflow with one flush. There is not enough volume in a flush to fill up the bowl. I did not look at your photos. Does the existing toilet have antique or sentimental value to you?
No...not really...actually I think it's been leaking from the bottom.
 

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No...not really...actually I think it's been leaking from the bottom.
So water coming out of the base onto the visible floor when you flush.

That would be a failure of the wax seal, and maybe a partial clog farther down. The wax can be blown out by using a plunger into a clog in the drain pipe.
 

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Can you rock the toilet back and forth slightly? When using a wax seal on the flange, the wax is not like a spring...rock the toilet one way, and then back, and it will compress, and leave an opening. It's not unusual at all to need some shims to keep the toilet from rocking. If that's the case, you need a new wax ring and probably some shims. I tend to use coins as I have them in my pocket and don't have to go and buy some. If that's not the issue, then you might have a crack in the toilet that's letting water escape. Hard to tell without looking closer and removing the toilet to look.
 

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Michael, you said toilet was overflowing . Most people call an overflowing toilet when water is coming over rim of the bowl and getting on the floor. Is this your problem ? Lets all be on same page. leaking at the base is not overflowing
 
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Can you rock the toilet back and forth slightly? When using a wax seal on the flange, the wax is not like a spring...rock the toilet one way, and then back, and it will compress, and leave an opening. It's not unusual at all to need some shims to keep the toilet from rocking. If that's the case, you need a new wax ring and probably some shims. I tend to use coins as I have them in my pocket and don't have to go and buy some. If that's not the issue, then you might have a crack in the toilet that's letting water escape. Hard to tell without looking closer and removing the toilet to look.
Doesn't seem to rock at all. But definitely leaking on the bottom.
 
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The one I had put in there a rubber one is --I thought-- better than wax...should I still but 1 or 2 or what? Although it was maybe about 5 months ago since I put the rubber one in and I think it's gotten worse since then.
 
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1. How far above or below the floor level is the top of the closet flange -- if you remember?
2. Which waxless seal did you put in?
 
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I think the biggest problem is the water doesn't go down...or at least hardly at all...I'm going to turn off all water...open the clean-out on the outside ...and put a snake down after removing the toilet...if the water could go down easier it wouldn't have a tendency to go side ways.
 

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I think the biggest problem is the water doesn't go down...or at least hardly at all...I'm going to turn off all water...open the clean-out on the outside ...and put a snake down after removing the toilet...if the water could go down easier it wouldn't have a tendency to go side ways.
I agree. If no problem detected outside, have somebody use a big cleanout machine down your toilet flange. A big machine can be dangerous for the inexperienced.

By no problem detected outside, I am envisioning you looking down the cleanout and seeing standing water -- which means a problem.

I think a lot of toilets will not leak out of the base even if the wax or waxless seal are missing entirely, as long as the pipe below the closet flange is clear.

I presume you are on city sewer.
 
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