T valve between well head and water line from priming?

[Verywellfl]

Welled out by now..( see my other posts)... New well is finally drilled, new trench and pipes are connected to new pump, new tank. Still same issue - no water! Ex says priming fails (again) and now wants to put t-valve between well head and pipe. I've never seen a valve between well head and pipe..its always a upside down u- shape pipe connection, then maybe followed by a valve. .could a t- valve fix the (priming) issue?
PS: after spending thousands of dollars I m afraid that ex didn't hook up new pump correctly in the first place...same issue with old well than with new well...
To sum up:
T- valve between well head and underground water line?
Ok? Irrelevant? Might fix priming issue?
Thank you in advance!!❤️

 

[Valveman]

What kind of well did you get? How deep to water? Was the well tested to make sure it makes water and how much? Not usually good to have any other fittings on the suction line as they are just more opportunities for a suction leak, and shouldn't be needed.

 

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[Verywellfl]

90 feet,
He wants to use the valve to prime pump. Puring water in

 

[Valveman]

The well is 90' deep? How large is the casing? How deep to water? Prime ports should be on the discharge side of the pump. BTW, 4" or larger casing would allow a submersible which doesn't need priming.

 

[Verywellfl]

The well is 90' deep? How large is the casing? How deep to water? Prime ports should be on the discharge side of the pump. BTW, 4" or larger casing would allow a submersible which doesn't need priming.

2 inch, no submersible pump. (4 companies contacted, all suggested 2 inch) . I'll call the well driller tomorrow and ask him to try it. (I wanted this in the first place but .. )

 

[Valveman]

If the foot valve on the packer is holding it should be easy to prime from a discharge port.

 

[Bannerman]

Are there 2 pipes connected between the pump to the well or only 1 pipe?

Although the well is 90' deep, what is the static level of the water within the 2" casing? If the water is more than ~24' below the pump inlet and if only one pipe is connected, no water can be drawn as the maximum distance a jet pump can draw water vertically by suction is 24'.

Edit: I read in your other post, the well driller recommended a 2" well casing only because your home's plumbing lines are smaller than 2" so a larger casing would be a 'waste'.

The diameter of the home's plumbing lines has no bearing on the diameter of the casing required. A larger diameter casing will permit a larger quantity of water to be stored in the well. A 2" casing will not allow much water to be stored so while water is being drawn, the pump will be forced to pull water from the surrounding soil. With a larger diameter casing, the pump will be pumping the water stored within the casing, which will allow the casing to recover naturally at the rate the surrounding soil will support.

 

[Verywellfl]

Although the well is 90' deep, what is the static level of the water within the 2" casing? If the water is more than ~24' below the pump inlet and if only one pipe is connected, no water can be drawn as the maximum distance a jet pump can draw water vertically by suction is 24'

Only one pipe...about 80 feet horizontal to the pump. Interesting about the vertical distance...I'll my ex know so that he can check and/ or give up.
Let's hope the well driller can get it to work next week (they know about pump location etc vet)

 

[Valveman]

A deep well jet pump can have only one suction pipe when using a packer as the casing is the second pipe. Leathers on the packer are a pain in the butt to get to seal. That maybe why you can't get a prime. Leathers really need to be soaked in water before installing.

 

[Verywellfl]

A deep well jet pump can have only one suction pipe when using a packer as the casing is the second pipe. Leathers on the packer are a pain in the butt to get to seal. That maybe why you can't get a prime. Leathers really need to be soaked in water before installing.

You lost me... I don't know what a packer is... But I have not seen anything with leather on it... I am not there anyway and gave up...

 

[Valveman]

A picture of your setup would be worth a thousand words.

 

[Verywellfl]

A picture of your setup would be worth a thousand words.

I'll ask him to send me some. If he doesn't, I'll send some next week. Thanks for your time and help

 

[Verywellfl]

A picture of your setup would be worth a thousand words.

Well drillerI came by- pump is running pumping water

 

[Verywellfl]

I'll ask him to send me some. If he doesn't, I'll send some next week. Thanks for your time and help

 

[Verywellfl]

I will send pictures next week. Pump is pumping water pipes to house will be connected tomorrow.

 

[Valveman]

Sounds like the leathers in the packer finally swelled enough to seal.

 

[Reach4]

We think the well has something like this:

Pump sends much of the water down the well. That water squirts at high velocity thru a jet nozzle. The venture action sucks in more water.

In a shallow jet pump, the jet is with the pump. In a deep well jet pump, the jet is down the well.

In retrospect, even a 3 inch PVC casing would have allowed a 3-inch submersible pump. However the local drillers are not used to that.

 

[2stupid2fixit]

What kind of well did you get? How deep to water? Was the well tested to make sure it makes water and how much? Not usually good to have any other fittings on the suction line as they are just more opportunities for a suction leak, and shouldn't be needed.

i agree with valveman. without knowing those specifics of your well, we are all just staring at a hole in the ground hoping it fills up with water to pump out and use.

 

[2stupid2fixit]

i agree with valveman. without knowing those specifics of your well, we are all just staring at a hole in the ground hoping it fills up with water to pump out and use. the key metrics we are looking for is how many feet does the well head casing (at your boots) go down into the planet? Is it 5 feet or is it 500 feet? THEN- when you know how deep your well is, do you know how many feet the pump pumps from?