Need help identifying poly piping for pressure tank

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Hi everyone,

I’m looking for some help identifying both of these poly pipes, and most importantly, the ID so I can select the appropriate barbed fitting to use when replacing the pressure tank.

For the one at the bottom of the picture, (out to yard hydrant) with red paint on it, and coming vertically out of the floor; I’ve been able to read the markings on the pipe and have found NSF 1” Orangeburg & 120psi @ 73.4F. There are a couple others, but I cannot make them out. I did not see any “standard” marking such as IPS, SIDR, SDR, etc. I measured the OD at 1.315” which aligns with 1” IPS.

The pipe coming out of the wall, (supply from well) running through a couple elbows and into the tank tee, has no markings whatsoever. The OD was somewhat variable depending on the orientation I measured it in, but I would going off memory I would say it averaged around 1.290” I can remeasure to get exact numbers.

When it’s time to replace all of this old stuff I need to ensure I have everything on hand to get the job done. Any suggestions on what standard these pipes may be, so I can determine ID and purchase the appropriate barbed fittings? I'm assuming there are different diameter barbs depending on the piping ID?

Additional question: I’ve called two barbed fitting manufacturers asking about the OD of the barbs on their fittings. The response from both was 1.095” and that the fittings are intended to work with piping that has an average ID of 1.049”. Why so much interference, and how would this work with a variety of different ID standards?

Thank you!


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I expect that you have SIDR polyethylene pipe made by the "Orangeburg Manufacturing Company". With SIDR, the ID stays the same for a given nominal size, and the OD is a function of the pressure rating and material. Thus they fit on a common insert barbed fitting. Use brass, stainless steel, or even nylon. I would not use the cheapest ones made for irrigation, because they have mold marks that could contribute to small leaks.

So you would want 1 inch SIDR.

When people hear Orangeburg pipe, they think of a notorious scary sewer pipe. Fortunately that is not what you have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangeburg_pipe
 
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Doesn't it seem strange thought that the OD measures 1.315" which aligns perfectly with IPS piping and no others?


There is something else to consider. Home Depot calls their pipe that fits on standard barbs IPS rather than SIDR. So you might look into what is going on with them. The real IPS standard has a standard OD. SDR has standard OD. SIDR has standard ID.

https://www.wlplastics.com/news/hdpe-pipe-sizes offers a new size class: DIPS...


It seems to me that all nominal 1 inch SIDR and 1 inch SDR9 should both fit nominal 1 inch barbs.

https://support.boshart.com/why-do-...ly-larger-diameters-than-the-i.d.-of-the-pipe has info on barbs.

Please post more on your studies on this topic.
 
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