Re: More questions about code....
Posted by DAN on June 08, 2002 at 11:32:25:
In response to Re: More questions about code....
: Can county code ever override or eliminate a state code item? Is that what you mean by "...if the county adopts the state code without an exception." (Note that the hot water heater pan was just an example.) Also, is the National Standard Plumbing Code equivalent/on the same level as the BOCA National Building code? AND WHAT DOES BOCA stand for? And finally, what is meant by Annotated Code of (insert a state's name) as in: In the event of a conflict between the BOCA Code and the Annotated Code of _________, the provisions of the Annotated code of ___________ shall prevail. Thanks again for clarifying plumbing code.
: : : : Your county (or other municipality) is the final arbiter of what codes to use and how to interpret them. This means that if the local guy decides that you have to paint your piping green with red stripes to satisfy a code requirement, you gotta do it.
: : : Okay, but how about if the county code doesn't mention hot water heater pan required under the hot water heater but the state code does and the county plumbing inspectors don't inforce the state code. Does that mean that plumbers who install replacement hotwater heaters don't have to mention to the homeowners the need for the pans? In other words, do the county plumbers not have to comply with the state codes?.

: : If the county code references the state code (and it probably does) and does not specifically exclude the need for the pans, they are required whether the county chooses to enforce the requirement or not. Therefore, it would be incumbent on the plumber to install the heater per code, i.e. with a drain pan, if the county adopts the state code without an exception. Note that in the National Standard Plumbing Code, this pan is NOT required when the floor is a slab on grade and not subject to water damage (i.e. made of concrete).

I HAVE A QUESTION: I LIVE IN CALIF. I DID A SMALL REMODEL FOR A CUSTOMER AND HE WAS TOLD THAT THE DRAIN WAS INSTALLED INCORRECTLY. I AM A LICENSED PLUMBER, AND HAVE BEEN DOING REPAIR PLUMBING FOR 16 YEARS. I CUT INTO A CASTIRON 4" MAIN IN ORDER TO RUN A LINE FOR A NEW LOCATION FOR A TOILET. THE ORIGINAL WAS 81/2 INCHES OFF THE WALL AND COULD NOT ACOMMADATE THE TYPE OF TOILET THESE PEOPLE WANTED. THE VENT GOES UP AN OUTSIDE WALL AND THE NEW TOILET WOULD NEED TO BE INSTALLED ROUGHLY 4' FROM THE VENT. I GOT UNDER THE HOUSE AND FOUND THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH VERTICAL SPACE FOR A HEEL OUTLET OR DIRECTIONAL TYPE FITTING TO PICK UP LINE FROM ORIGINAL LINE. SO I CUT INTO THE 4" MAIN AND CUT THE OLD ARM TO ORIGINAL TIOILET. RAN A 4" LINE TO NEW TOILET.THIS LINE IS ROUGHLY DOWNSTREAM 7' FROM THE VENT. MY CODE BOOK STATES THAT THIS CAN BE DONE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. I FEEL THAT THIS WAS MY ONLY ALTERNATIVE DUE TO THE AGE AND CONSTRUCTION OF THIS FLOORING. THE CODE BOOK ALSO STATES THAT I CAN HAVE A 10' TRAP ARM ON A 4" LINE . CAN YOU ELABORATE





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