the guy swears by it and says it is always pretty close.i know what you are saying about taking everything into account insulation etc,i even called slantfinn and they said they stopped making that programme a few years ago.anyway i am now looking at a hb smith boiler with an indirect tank,boiler co.says the boiler holds a lot of water preventing short cycling which will eliminate an ergomax been used as a buffer tank.what do you think.i know the right way to do it but am tight at the moment.thanks again for your help