Should I add a CSV?

Torque arresters, extra check valves, and rope or cables are band aids for things that haven’t happened yet, and would never happen if you know what causes the original problem. Torque arresters are to keep from wearing our the wire from the pump cycling to much. Extra check valves are to backup the original check valve should it fail because of to much cycling. Rope or cable is to catch the pump when it unscrews from the pipe, because of excess cycling. See a pattern here?

With small systems it takes a trained eye to see, hear, and feel the water hammer that happens because of an extra check valve. Cycling that seems normal to most people, cause a visceral and immediate reaction on my part, because I know the destruction it is causing. Just because it takes a trained eye to see these things, doesn’t mean they are not happening.

I use to have the same problems as well, until 17 years ago when I started using a Cycle Stop Valve on every system I installed. When the cycling goes away, you don’t wear out the check valve, so you don’t need extras. When the cycling goes away you no longer have to worry about the wire getting whipped to death, so you don’t need torque arresters. When the cycling goes away you no longer have to worry about the pump coming unscrewed and falling in the well, so you don’t need a rope or cable.

Now there is no rope, so it can’t fall in the well and prevent the pump from being pulled. Now there are no torque arresters to stick and prevent the pump from being pulled. Now there are no extra check valves, so you don’t have to worry about contamination or water hammer from negative line pressure. Eliminating the cycling will also make your pump, motor, bladder tank, pressure switch, and relays last longer.

Of course the manufacturers are not going to recommend doing this. They are going to highly recommend that you install a Variable Speed Pump instead. It took me many years to realize that manufacturers and even government officials do not recommend things that would be good for the end user but, rather because they are good for the manufacturer. When you buy a car the manufacturer recommends a certain motor oil. They want you to use an oil that is good enough to get the car past it’s warranty period. They will not however, recommend a synthetic oil that would make your car last three times as long.

Because it will triple the life expectancy, pump manufacturers will also not recommend a Cycle Stop Valve. They want you to keep letting the pump cycle itself to death, or use a Variable Speed Controller. Both of which will keep cash flowing through their company because you have to replace them often. In order to allow the pump to cycle itself to death in the planned amount of time, you need band aids like extra check valves, torque arresters, and ropes to cover your butt. Or you can simply solve the original problem, which is cycling, and you won’t need the band aids.
 
Valveman, I am in complete agreement with you. If I could talk everyone into a CSV it would be a better world indeed. Unfortunately, most contractors will not go the extra bucks. And believer me, I am in agreement over check valves, torqure arrestors and safety cables also, but up here the stat code says do it so I do it.
 
A CSV and a small tank is less expensive than the old style regular pressure tank method. The only thing keeping contractors from using the CSV is a lack of understanding the benefits. Most people still think the bigger the tank the better. These same people are usually shocked to find out that tanks as big as 86 gallon size only hold 25 gallons of water. What use is storing 25 gallons in a tank for a house that uses hundreds of gallons per day, and is drawing water from an aquifer than has millions of acre feet of water already stored in it. The function of any pressure tank is simply to reduce cycling, not to store water. Since the CSV will almost eliminate cycling, the size of the pressure tank can be drastically reduced.

Florida code says you have to use a CSV or install a pressure tank large enough for 1 gallon of draw, for each GPM of the pump. Codes can be just opposite from state to state. This proves that "somebody" must be wrong. Florida may have some of their codes right, but many other states do not. Texas is one of the worst. We are still using rules that were written in 1952. More than a few things have changed since then. For many of us, codes are something we have to work around, in order to get the system working properly.

The oxymoron "I'm with the government and I am here to help you",
is no longer a funny joke but, a scary reality.
 
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