High End Kitchen Faucet Advice

tkohn · Feb 15, 2008

Hi All,

I have been lurking around this forum for a few weeks and have found tons of great advice, thank you.

I am getting a new pull-down kitchen faucet and am kinda torn between 2 models, the Delta Allora (989-SS) and Moen Showhouse Woodmere (S728SL). The Delta has a magnet that keeps the spout in place while the Moen uses a standard friction fitting, I do like the appearence of the Moen slightly better though...

Question - Anyone have any first hand knowledge or experience with either faucet?

Thanks!

Master Plumber Mark · Feb 15, 2008

Delta Is Better

get the delta.....

theirs is simply much easier to repair
and it last longer too

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Krow · Feb 15, 2008

master plumber mark said:
get the delta.....

theirs is simply much easier to repair
and it last longer too

That is a matter of opinion. ..

In my area, I find the moen alot easier to repair than the delta. I find moen parts more readily available than the delta. Even the most obscure check valves that the pullout sray/spout combos have are easier to find than delta parts

tkohn · Feb 16, 2008

I would expect that both the Moen and Delta would have parts readily available in my area. A sideline observation, from what I have read it seems that the Delta's (in general) require a bit more service but the parts are easy to get free direct from Delta, correct?

bigbird · Feb 16, 2008

tkohn said:
from what I have read it seems that the Delta's (in general) require a bit more service but the parts are easy to get free direct from Delta, correct?

From what I know it's the other way around.

Mikey · Feb 16, 2008

An amateur's opinion: Moen.

Master Plumber Mark · Feb 16, 2008

moen posi temps....

I prefer the Delta for general principle....

once you have fought a few of those moen cartridges
that simply cannot come out short of an act of god...

you wish that it was a Delta for that reason alone..

parts are parts.... both are easy to get for FREE..

Delta is very , very easy to repair,

Moen can more often than not become a
literal MANHOOD CONTEST to get apart.
I have torn our out of a walll before.....

I dont like to curse that much in fromt of the
customer....

..

...

Redwood · Feb 17, 2008

I feel that both are a good choice... I lean toward Moen on the basis of their great customer service. I hear the complaints of hard to remove cartridges and have yet to encounter one.

Mikey · Feb 18, 2008

I admit I did have to manufacture a puller to get the cartidges out of a pair of new shower valves last year. Nice diversion

. My only complaint with Moen, and it may be universal now, is those $#!* all-pictures, no-words instructions they're sending out these days.

Redwood · Feb 18, 2008

You looked at the instructions?
Real plumbers do not look at the instructions!

Krow · Feb 18, 2008

Redwood said:
You looked at the instructions?
Real plumbers do not look at the instructions!

They have instuctions??

Mikey · Feb 18, 2008

I thought they eliminated the words so that real plumbers could read them

.

Herk · Feb 18, 2008

In our hard-water area, Moen cartridges can be difficult if not impossible to remove. Used to be only the brass cartridges got frozen in place because of a combination of lime buildup on the o-rings and the o-rings themselves hardening. But I've more recently had problems even with the plastic cartridges breaking in half, and leaving a section in the bottom of the chamber.

I've ruined countless aftermarket pullers for the brass cartridges. I always consider when working on one that I may be ripping out the wall. If the aftermarket cartridge puller doesn't work, there is no way to get it back out of the faucet.

michel1 · Feb 18, 2008

If you want some information on installing kitchen faucet just have a look at this
â€¢ assemble the tools listed on the installation sheet included in the faucet box
â€¢ shut off the water supplies from the valves located under your sink & turn on the faucet to release pressure
â€¢ disconnect the tubes attached to the water supply valves. You may need to use a tubing cutter to cut the water supply pipes
Its a drawn out procedure if use need more information you can visit the sites that are available on net.

Master Plumber Mark · Feb 19, 2008

this is the reason you want Delta.....

Herk said:
In our hard-water area, Moen cartridges can be difficult if not impossible to remove. Used to be only the brass cartridges got frozen in place because of a combination of lime buildup on the o-rings and the o-rings themselves hardening. But I've more recently had problems even with the plastic cartridges breaking in half, and leaving a section in the bottom of the chamber.

I've ruined countless aftermarket pullers for the brass cartridges. I always consider when working on one that I may be ripping out the wall. If the aftermarket cartridge puller doesn't work, there is no way to get it back out of the faucet.

your post says it all.....
I have literally been in tears trying to get
half of a plastic posi-temp cartridge out
of a second story shower faucet before....
what should have been a 20 min job turns into
3 hours...

I have had to change out a good handful of Moen faucets
where they literally wont come out...

and for many of the moen lavatory and kitchen faucets it
takes majic or a miracle to get them off without scarring them all up
in the effort of removeing them just to get to the innards..

all I know is
at least with delta you got a fighting chance
10 years from now

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