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    Default Help with shower valve identity - dripping

    Hi,
    Thanks in advance for your help...
    I have attached three pics of my shower valve. The house was built in 1973, and its the original valve. It will not fully shut off the water, and also feels like there's either something pushing back, or it slams shut with a good bang. Neither will completely stop the leak.
    Five years ago I had a plummer repair it. He told me it was an old cartridge, and required a special tool. This time I want to do it myself, since I feel its going to fail again in a few years. The reason I called the plummer the last time was once I remove the knob and plate, I couldn't see any other fasteners or threaded components that I could remove next.

    1. Can anyone identify the brand/model from the pics I attached?
    2. Can you tell me what tool I need to purchase for removal?

    Thanks
    Mike
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    It would be nice to see a photo of the cartridge. In other words, remove the handle and trim plate. Then take a photo.

    To replace any cartridge, you need to turn off the water to the shower. Most cartridges have a stem that you can pull on with a pliers. There are also cartridge pullers if that doesn't work.

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    Thanks.
    Tommorrow I will remove what I can and take another photo. My intention was to try and identify what I needed and make sure someone has the correct cartridge before I tried to remove it. My only shut-off (other than the street) is in my crawl space, and somewhat difficult to get to.

    I did read somewhere that once you get to the stem, you can screw the knob back on and use it to pull out the cartridge. Will that work? If not, is a cartridge puller a "universal" tool, or does it take different ones to fit your cartridge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmem
    Thanks.
    I did read somewhere that once you get to the stem, you can screw the knob back on and use it to pull out the cartridge. Will that work? If not, is a cartridge puller a "universal" tool, or does it take different ones to fit your cartridge?
    Screwing the handle back on is not much diferent than pulling with a pliers. I know Moen has its own cartridge puller, but I'm not sure about the others. Hence, the photo.

    BTW, if you can pull it out, just bring it with you to a plumbing supply shop and match it up.

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    It is an original Moen Chatau . Get a moen 1225B cartridge and some new trim.

    Can be found on the moen web site .

    Cal

    Last edited by Terry; 08-10-2009 at 12:33 AM.

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    Yes, Cal, you called it! Actually, once I took it apart to get another photo I found the Moen name stamped on the coverplate. Then, with the help of their WEB site, I could see the 1225 was it. Got the part at Home Depot last night, and got it installed before bedtime. I was able to just use pliers along with light tapping with a rubber mallot on the fixture housing to break the cartridge loose. Success!
    I appreciate everyone's responses and help! Great forum...
    Mike

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    Great job! Sound like you have the "touch" for plumbing work. These valves can be stubborn, and you found a technique which worked.

    I am surprised how long it took for someone to ID it! The little bump-out on the sleeve is of course the dead giveaway for Moen.

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    The "pointer" on the handle, along with the H/C is also exclusively Moen.

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    " I am surprised how long it took for someone to ID it"


    What was that ,,,,,,,,, a TEST ?? You moderators just lurking around ?

    If you's can help someone earlier , jump on in the ring !

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    Just my little dig because I didn't get to be the first one in with the answer!

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    Default test

    If it was a test then they would have to come up with a better subject line than "identify a faucet". That is usually a topic that gets a dozen answers within the first few minutes and does not warrant opening, until there is nothing else to do and you want to see how many answers identified it correctly.

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