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    Default One handle shower valves...

    Just wondering, why do some folks like valves with IPS fitting and other like sweat? Seems to me that IPS, especially when working with PEX is a no-brainer.

    What's your take?

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    Talking sweat valves....

    depending on the situation whech ever works out
    best....

    if it is a tight , tight spot.... the sweat is always best

    and of course you want to make sure your fire insurance
    is up to date...

    if I can post these pics from friday, I will

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    Default pex

    Some of us still know how to work with copper so the sweat valve eliminates a possible leak at a threaded connection. But since many of the newer valves have a combintion male thread and solder socket, it is less of a decision.

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    A few years ago, I would say that the IPS versions were provided as a convenience to DIY'ers. Today, with PEX more prevalent, there is the necessity at some point to transition to the PEX via a non-heated fitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo
    A few years ago, I would say that the IPS versions were provided as a convenience to DIY'ers. Today, with PEX more prevalent, there is the necessity at some point to transition to the PEX via a non-heated fitting.
    Thank you for the reply jimbo. Nice to meet you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hj
    Some of us still know how to work with copper so the sweat valve eliminates a possible leak at a threaded connection. But since many of the newer valves have a combintion male thread and solder socket, it is less of a decision.
    Ahh... I see, so threaded fittings leak and copper is better. I'll have to look around for a plumber who sweats pipe for natural gas then.

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    Come on Pete.............Threaded valves were also used when houses were piped galv. And doing replacements it was much better than converting to copper to galvanized pipe.

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    You can't sweat copper for fuel gas. You can use flare joints, however.

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    Or you can still use black pipe properly and it is perfect for gas. Just like PEX is perfect for pot. water.

    Provided the person installing it knows how to work with it.


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    In some areas, apparently you can use copper for gas, although it should be silver solder/brazed. Statement was that a threaded joint on a brass shower valve can leak, while a proper solder joint will not. How does that say anything about a black steel gas line?

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    It was implied that if the connection is sweated instead of threaded you will not get a leak. In that implication in whereas, "some of us still know..." that people who don't know how to sweat a pipe use the threaded version (not the case, but I was illustrating the inaccuracy by making the threaded gas pipe comment) - If a thread connection isn't good enough for water, well then, it certainly isn't good enough for gas. (Not accurate since we all know that gas is most often run in black *threaded* pipe).

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    I'm sorry Pete, I'm not sure what your trying to say.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by plumber1
    I'm sorry Pete, I'm not sure what your trying to say.........
    Never mind.

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