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    I would like to mount a new front load washer at counter top height, using new cabinets and counter top. the local salesman tells me that the pedestal made by the washer manufacturer is the only approved mounting system. He claims that the extreme speed of spin in the new washers will necessitate using the pedestal. that is fine with me, however the pedestal does not provide the height we need, and a 29" countertop would.Any suggestions?

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    Bull!! The pedestal is 100% completely optional. The guy sounds like a sleaze. You can put it right on the floor, just like any other washer in the world.

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    If the countertop is sufficant to hold the weight of the loaded washer, I'd go for it.

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    I think if you did not build a special cabinet for it , you would experience vibration issues. Then what do you do if it walks around? Also, if you mount it that high, will the controls be accessible?

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    Your description of your problem is a bit unclear to me. It almost sounds like you want to put the washer on top of the counter, but I don't think you really do. If I have interpeted your question correctly, what you want to do is install this washer so its top is level (29") with the counter top, and the machine is too low as is, and the base they want to sell you won't bring the washer up high enough either. I fail to see how that base will be any better than build your own platform of the desired height, but I do see one potential problem that the salesman already mentioned. An automatic washer (any) can develop some nasty vibrations if a load gets out of balance during the spin cycle. If you slide this machine in to an opening in the line-up of cabinets, like a DW, when the machine vibrates it may slam against the sides of the cabinets. That has nothing to do with height or platform base. You might figure a way to put the machine under the counter top, like a DW, but leave some space on the sides to allow for this vibration, but I have no idea how you could mask the space on the sides to keep dirt out and for appearance.

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    Watching my Kenmore He4t washer come up to high speed is intersting. It'll try, and if it shakes too much it stops, reverses, and generally moves back and forth to try to rearrange the load, then tries again to get up to speed. Eventually, it usually makes it, and cranks it on up to 1300 rpm, which is pretty exciting in itself.

    It's on an officially-sanctioned pedestal, which, if anything, makes it more unstable than sitting on the floor. During its attempts to reach spin nirvana, it will shake up to 3/4 " or so, but hasn't walked yet. I took great pains to level it and adjust its feet for best stability.

    Bottom line: the pedestal is not needed, if you can provide a very substantial base for the thing to sit on. It will need about an inch clearance all around for shaking room. If you do slide it into a cabinet opening, I'd consider a medium-density foam strip around the top to absorb the shakes.

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    Default High RPM's for sure !!!!

    Well, we are Maytag people.
    My DH is a major appliance service technician. I sure wish he were here.
    I KNOW that the RPM's on the Maytag Neptune HE front loader are among the highest in the industry and I would think that WOULD be a factor in terms of how it is "mounted".

    The one thing I want to say is: I EMPLORE you. PLEASE do not build anything that is going to make it IMPOSSIBLE when a tech has to come and work on your machine.......because he WILL have to come and work on it.

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    My post was unclear. I want to mount my machine on a counter top or a base of counter top height. It needs to be this high to enable my wife and myself to load and unload without bending. (we have bad backs)Although the height seems excessive, I have measured, and mounted 29" above the floor, the opening of both washer and dryer is at the correct height for both of us. Any suggestions?
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    Well then, I guess my first reading of your original post was correct. My only question to you now is, where are the controls for this washer. Usually controls are mounted on the top rear, and if that is the case, how in the world will you reach them?

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    The models we have been looking at have front mounted controls(frigidare,bosh, ge), and we can reach them at that height. It is just the security of the installation regarding stability in question.
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    I would say that you could do it, but the base construction had better be a lot more substantial than the commercial cabinetry I've seen in HD, Lowe's, and several design centers. I think you're looking at very custom cabinetry. Also, instead of simply resting the appliances on the cabinets, I'd consider bolting them to it. You might also look at very heavy-duty slide assemblies to facilitate service, so that when cols' husband shows up he can just unlock something and slide the units out for service.

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    I was thinking 4x4's screwed to the floor joists w/ deck screws, then 4x4 legs with a band of 2x10's and a top of 3/4 flooring. Then cover with cabnet panels. With the washer and dryer bolted to the base and tied into the floor joists it should withstand a heavy load and substantial spinning force. What do you all think?
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    You can eliminate any back and forth movement by securing the platform to the wall behind the W & D, but what about side to side?

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    You'll be carrying all the dynamic loads into the house structure, which probably isn't a great idea. Having said that, I like the 4x4 structure, but I'd probably be through-bolting a lot of it as well, rather than screws. You can't make it totally rigid -- you might look at some vibration isolators to keep the loads down, and reduce noise transmitted into the house. That's a whole 'nother engineering discipline I have little experience with, though. One of the top companies in the field is the Lord corporation (www.lord.com) -- they might offer some design assistance.

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    So how do they do it at Laundramats?
    The big machines are all about chest high, and they're stacked side by side by side. Maybe you could stop in one and check it out, maybe the manager will let you be nosy.


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