Choosing New Toilets

**A Jones** · 12-14-2004, 05:09 PM

I need to buy 3 new toilets for a remodel.
I am looking for a QUIET, POWERFUL, ONE-PIECE toilet.
I'd like to go with KOHLER, to match sinks and tubs.
Any suggestions?

**jadnashua** · 12-14-2004, 05:15 PM

Is the existing stuff white? If so, there are some good matches in other brands. Toto makes two whites, and lists the other brands that are compatible. If the stuff is not white, there is still a possibility you can get a match. Most manufacturers list a cross-reference color chart. How close the match is is an open point.

**jdkimes** · 12-15-2004, 11:13 AM

I'm not a plumber but just put a Toto Drake elongated in my new bathroom.
It's very quiet, fast, powerful flush, but not one piece.
But I'd think if you bought a Toto one piece as long as it had the G-Max flush you'd get the same quiet, powerful.
The Toto Carlyle looks like it fits that bill.
Terry has lots of toilet suggestions, maybe you can buy it from him.

**PEW** · 12-15-2004, 11:52 AM

From personal experience I highly recommend the Toto Carlyle. Tried one, and then replaced all our toilets well over a year ago, no problems they work great. Just recommended one to a friend who is now getting a second one.

**LonnythePlumber** · 12-16-2004, 06:53 AM

The only reason to match name brands on fixtures is color. There is an advantage to having the same faucet manufacturer. I consider Kohler's to be problematic and would avoid them if possible. If you do get a Kohler then you had better get a plunger also.

**Brian S.** · 12-17-2004, 12:39 AM

If you go with Kohler, you could go with the Cimarron, but instead of a plunger, you should buy a toilet brush for this one. It does flush good, but is more prone to skid marks than the others. I have one, and this is my only complaint about it. However, I would much rather give a quick scrub of the brush than to be constantly plunging and double and triple flushing. Like Terry has said, it is much better than the Wellworth toilet, despite the bowl wash issue. If I have to replace my other toilet though, I'll get a Toto, and do a "head to head" comparison. Just my 2 cents worth. Good luck for whatever toilet you choose,

Brian

**DaveT** · 01-06-2005, 06:14 AM

Hello, everyone,

I'm new to this Forum and Terry's evaluations and the MAP report, and have found them very helpful in my quest for the "right" replacement toilet. In particular, they led me away from the Kohler Wellworth Highline, which I had kind of homed-in on before reading the MAP ratings.

I had then pretty much decided on a Kohler Cimarron until I read about its bowl cleaning deficiencies, and now am uncertain again. Perhaps some of you can comment.

I had picked the Cimarron as a lower cost, more readily available alternative to the Toto line. I was looking for the following features in addtion to good flush/bowl cleaning performance: ADA "Comfort" height w/ elongated bowl, concealed trapway, 'conventional' appearance, in white. The concealed trapway has proven difficult to find, at least in conventional reasonably priced toilets. The Cimarron has all except concealed trapway.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

**Terry** · 01-06-2005, 09:37 AM

The Cimarron does not have good bowl wash, we know that.
The tank goes on easily, but has no sanitary dam to prevent urine from getting under the tank.
It does plug sometimes.
For most people though, it will be a step up in performance.

It you want something better, you can look at the Toto,
http://www.totousa.com/toto/dealerlocator.asp

I've been selling the Toto Dalton ADA for $187.00
It's better than and for less money than the Cimarron.

Even better than that is the Toto Drake ADA which goes for more money but has very good performance.

TOTO Drake 800 grams by Veritech, Video

**Cybermonkey** · 05-20-2008, 05:22 PM

Hi Everyone,

We're restoring a 1910 bungalow. Need a toilet that will help keep our water usage down (so that we can continue to use original septic system) that will also look good in a traditional bathroom. The other fixtures are an original clawfoot tub, and the St. Thomas Creations Liberty pedestal sink. We've ordered the kohler Memoirs round-bowl toilet, but now I'm wondering if we're going to regret this decision in the long run. Anyone have any suggestions, or experience with the Memoirs toilet?

**Terry** · 05-20-2008, 06:23 PM

The Memoirs is either like the Wellworth, if it has the 2" flapper, or it's like the Cimarron, with a large flapper.
St Thomas makes some Quadro flush toilets that may go with the lav.

**SteveW** · 05-20-2008, 06:37 PM

Toto Soiree

Originally Posted by Cybermonkey

Hi Everyone,

We're restoring a 1910 bungalow. Need a toilet that will help keep our water usage down (so that we can continue to use original septic system) that will also look good in a traditional bathroom. The other fixtures are an original clawfoot tub, and the St. Thomas Creations Liberty pedestal sink. We've ordered the kohler Memoirs round-bowl toilet, but now I'm wondering if we're going to regret this decision in the long run. Anyone have any suggestions, or experience with the Memoirs toilet?

I don't know anything about those particular fixtures, but I have a Toto Soiree which has sort of a classic look to it. It has Toto's new "double cyclone" bowl wash which i HIGHLY recommend.