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    DIY Junior Member CatinNJ's Avatar
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    Question Torn Between Two Totos

    Not sure if I should post this here or in re-model, but this one did say toilets...

    I am trying to decide between the Toto Carlyle with Gmax and Sanagloss or the Toto Dorian, which is a pressure-assisted toilet that does not have Sanigloss.

    The biggest problem we've had with all three of our toilets is sweating, and I've read that the pressure-assisted toilets do not sweat.

    I'm a little concerned about the noise but I've read that it's not significant. However, the Toto Dorian wasn't included in the huge toilet test so I have no idea how it would have fared.

    Recommendations anyone?

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    Forum Admin, Expert Plumber Terry's Avatar
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    Both the Carlyle and the Dorian use a 3" flush valve and a 2 1/16" trapway.

    The Carlyle has a higher tank, so the water drops from more height.
    The Carlyle is considered a G-Max flush in Toto terms and the Dorian is a Power Gravity, which means it would be more like the Ultimate in the testing.
    "Power Gravity" is a gravity system. It does have a 3" flush valve.

    Performance with either would be good.

    I doubt that either tank would sweat. Since the flush only uses 1.6 gallons and the tank holds much more than that, the water stays warmer.
    Last edited by Terry; 01-05-2005 at 08:22 PM.

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    Retired Defense Industry Engineer jadnashua's Avatar
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    If you're doing some remodeling, one way to prevent sweating of the toilet is to use a mixing valve that adds a little hot water. My guess is that with a pressure assist toilet, since the water is in a pressure tank housed within the ceramic tank, because water does not come in contact with the sides of the ceramic, then it doesn't sweat, at least to the outside! Since there isn't much air exchange inside the toilet, there isn't much moisture to have any condensation. Do you have a deep well? Thought about maybe a storage tank (in addition to the pressure tank) to let the water warm up a little bit? My unprofessional opinion!
    Jim DeBruycker
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    Retired Defense Industry Engineer; Schluter 2.5-day Workshop Completed 2013, 2014


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