Premier Essen quality?

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JustShootMe

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Anyone have an opinion about a brand called Premier? I'm looking for a metal, metal, metal tub/shower/faucet in my price range. I bought a Moen for a little less, and it's all plastic except for the lever. All plastic. Premier is all brass, according to its site and everyone I've asked. But they're sellers; I want opinions from people who know what they're doing and aren't trying to sell anything.
 

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Never mind. I not touching an unknown brand whose sellers say they don't stock parts. I'm seriously thinking of replacing my three-handle Briggs faucet valve body with a Briggs Sayco 308. The first one lasted 60 years.

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It is now much harder to find an all-metal tub/shower valve, or any potable water valve at all for that matter...federal regulations became effective the first of this year which prohibit lead, and you'll find brass, without at least a little lead in it, is brittle and very expensive. In fact, I was told, unless they meet the requirement, the stores can no longer legally sell them...they had a couple of years warning to get rid of the older stock and switch, so they should have had enough time.

IOW, good luck trying to find all metal ones.
 

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The three handle valves haven't been code for at least twenty years.
No plumbing inspector would pass that off.

They still sell them though. I don't put them in. I switch them out to single handle pressure balance or thermostatic valves.
It's no fun having inspectors pull your stuff out.

Moen, Delta, Kohler, Grohe, Hansgrohe,

I installed Premier maybe twenty years ago for about six months. That's how long before they called wanting repairs. That was enough for me.
 
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