Eurob
master tile and stone installer
Johnwhipple said:Quote Originally Posted by eurob View Post
What is your profession John , plumber or tile installer ?
I'm a General Contractor who sets tile, waterproofs, drywall, low voltage.
Most people can not afford my day rates for tile setting so I only tile about 10% of my builds.
Some might say I'm a Pro Shit Disturber.
Jim goes on and on like a broken record. Never wrong that guy.
EuroB I know you have a love on for John Bridge as well. Did you not just get back from Reno for training with the gang. Maybe show us what you do here on Terry's before shooting off your peak. I've been showing off work and helping people here for six plus years. You have six posts. I would guess if I was interested enough to look most like Just A Drips posts will be crying about me hurting Jim's or John Bridge's feelings.
If memory serves me right you and Bill Vincent are buddy buddy's. If memory serves me right in the NTCA linked'in group you failed to pipe up about Bill's oversight on flood testing requirements. I see you have 1,300 plus posts on John's forum. Roberto Right?
Now unlike most of fakes over there I'm glad you have a link to a real web site. Photo's look like they are from this generation (unlike most of the old timers over there showing work from the 40's). So I'd be interested in your take on this business about shower building.
You are from Montreal Roberto - so clearly you are required to flood test all your projects. Any photo's of this step? Seams to be something all you John Bridge boys skip or don't discuss in public forums. Do you tend to hang out in the "Deep End" or the "Shallow End" on John Bridge's forum? Do you find that degrading? thise terms like I?
eurob said:John , I will address it only this one time .
I've been doing tile and stone installations for 25 years and seen most of commercial and residential world of it . I can go from regular , simple grids of square tiles to very complex patterns and level of installation of mosaics , stones , slabs , tiles of different types , including mapping of floors , mud beds , self leveling , waterproofing , design for production ,etc...
I am not here to educate or show off or else to anyone ....... I was here -- on this forum -- only to ask about a concern I've had , that's it . Somehow 2 of the threads -- one of them being this one -- cross linked with both forums -- TerryLove & JohnBridge -- and got me curious and browse thru them . While reading this one , I was really disgusted at the way you personally attack Jim . I don't know him , nor is a friend and even if we had some different arguments in the past in a different forum , I would never allow myself to bulldoze my free thinking over someone , on an open forum , especially that most of it can easily be taken out of context . He is well intentioned and he is respectful of others .
John Bridge tile forum is the best one out there for tiles and it is geared especially for DIY . I like to post there and the interaction with talented and professional members is rewarding . I will stop you there ....don't even think or assume about monetary or financial benefits . Members with lots of years of experience in installations , technical committees , reps from mfgs , etc interact and exchange opinions , which allows me to see different angles of the trade .
I am considering any tile installer as part of a big family --- tile and stone installers , setters , mechanics --- and assuming that Bill , John or etc. are my buddies is right. They are experienced installers which don't need me or others to tell them what to do or how do it ........on the contrary can tell others what or how do tile installations or waterproofing .......
I know waterproofing is one of your most argued subjects and not getting into it with you is very simple . I assume you know it . It is more important to believe and deliver the product to clients than over arguing it with everyone . Assuming what others say vs. what they do is another waste of time .
Shallow end , deep end , no end has some specific guidelines which should be met . Some members have more latitude in theirs comments and moderators or owners could do or impose what they want . You , me are just guests of theirs site , nothing else . Deleting some of my posts changed my thinking of the importance of posting and made me look in a different angle(s) at the subject . No one is asking me to post in forum threads and very often ,as an example , help is voluntary . I think posting should have boundaries and the most important , respect .
JohnWhipple said:Quote Originally Posted by eurob View Post
John , I will address it only this one time . ...
OK Roberto (EuroB). That seams to be the John Bridge forum member goto policy. Does this mean you are going to leave us now and run away? Or does it mean you will only address my beef with Jim this once and then leave it between us like the rest of the regulars do?
You have not been around here for six plus years and read the countless debates Jim and I have had. You do not know the little game Jim plays and his constant promotion of one product Kerdi. It sickens me. He sits there in his lame little office answering questions about everything under the sun with no real life experience. He talks about overbuilding like its a crime. Even said that a house could fall down once or something like that - called it Creep or something. The man is a tool. Needs help.
To say we need to offer up advice that is product specific based on manufactures recommendations is a joke. Sorry it is.
Quote Originally Posted by johnfrwhipple View Post
….You are from Montreal Roberto - so clearly you are required to flood test all your projects. Any photo's of this step? Seams to be something all you John Bridge boys skip or don't discuss in public forums. Do you tend to hang out in the "Deep End" or the "Shallow End" on John Bridge's forum? Do you find that degrading? thise terms like I?….
Now Roberto. Do you have any examples of a flood test you can share with us. Until you can prove to me that you actually build properly (IE Flood Tests) then I can only assume you know part of what you need to know. Going to Reno to get trained by John Bridge is not experience and not anything I would brag about. Pretty sure you where one of the gang that went to Reno for JB Training. John Bridge is really piling on the weight - or maybe the camera added 100 pounds….
People come here to solve problems. Learn from pros - NOT Joe's, or Jim's. People can goggle manufactures install sheets all by themselves, they don't need Jim reposting the obvious.
So as Jim continues to send people away from Terry's site I will continue to tear into him. He is a smart boy, he should have been able to figure this out himself.
Unlike Jim. I work on the tools everyday. I build showers. I feel that sharing my trouble shooting techniques helps people. So I'll continue to show off my work, my builds and the daily viewers here and those who come looking for advice can read through the advice given here. There are two styles. Mine and Jim's. Terry and Jim's. H.J.'s and Jim's.
Now me, Terry and H.J. are all pros. Jim's a Joe. It's clear to anyone looking long enough here. Try this. Go to Jim's profile and read his last 40 posts. From fixing popcorn machines to reformatting hard drives. Jim knows best.
JW
eurob said:Quote Originally Posted by johnfrwhipple
OK Roberto (EuroB). That seams to be the John Bridge forum member goto policy. Does this mean you are going to leave us now and run away? Or does it mean you will only address my beef with Jim this once and then leave it between us like the rest of the regulars do?
You have not been around here for six plus years and read the countless debates Jim and I have had. You do not know the little game Jim plays and his constant promotion of one product Kerdi. It sickens me. He sits there in his lame little office answering questions about everything under the sun with no real life experience. He talks about overbuilding like its a crime. Even said that a house could fall down once or something like that - called it Creep or something. The man is a tool. Needs help.
To say we need to offer up advice that is product specific based on manufactures recommendations is a joke. Sorry it is.
Since this is not a thread -- yours nor mine -- to debate personal matters , I did let you know about my intentions .
Leave us or run away from what ? Like I said , free thinking should be censored by the self ones in public written forum, that's my take on things anyway .
I did some reading on this site last night and it seems that it is not the only thread where my comments '' disrespectful .........'' could also be easily attached . No comment is probably best .
Manufactures recommendations are important from a novice or DIY POV and sometimes you need to keep them focused on understanding the rules in the book . If I tell them they can mix this with the other , even if the rep told me to do it , should I tell them ? I don't think it is a good idea , besides you can never be sure of the main reason(s) of others .
Quote Originally Posted by johnfrwhipple
Quote Originally Posted by johnfrwhipple View Post
….You are from Montreal Roberto - so clearly you are required to flood test all your projects. Any photo's of this step? Seams to be something all you John Bridge boys skip or don't discuss in public forums. Do you tend to hang out in the "Deep End" or the "Shallow End" on John Bridge's forum? Do you find that degrading? thise terms like I?….
Now Roberto. Do you have any examples of a flood test you can share with us. Until you can prove to me that you actually build properly (IE Flood Tests) then I can only assume you know part of what you need to know. Going to Reno to get trained by John Bridge is not experience and not anything I would brag about. Pretty sure you where one of the gang that went to Reno for JB Training. John Bridge is really piling on the weight - or maybe the camera added 100 pounds….
When I do the waterproofing and no plumber is involved , yes flood tests are done .
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I am not looking nor need to prove myself to you . The picture replace the assumption part .
No Reno for me -- did the Schluter class in Montreal -- , can't afford the travel expenses plus when I have work , it needs to be done .
On a last note .....Meeting new people , interactions with them is just a personal gain , like learning a language . Before you say I don't needed , think how much can reward your own self . If you assume what they will tell you and believe in it , then there is no point in doing it .
JohnWhipple said:Roberto - I thank you for the picture. It is a simple request and one most every other tile man I have asked can not produce. Like Jim for example, we never see the bathrooms (I think 2) he built nor any other pictures of his work.
You picture shows what looks like a flanged ACO linear shower drain and a Wedi shower pan floor. I bet your glad ACO says "ANY WATERPROOFING PRODUCTS" can be used. It also looks like you are using my tipped coin measuring device.
So it appears by this photo I have already helped you improve your game.
My attacks on Jim and John Bridge are my opinions. My BAD. When these men earn any respect from me - it will be given back. I doubt that day will ever come. So if my poor taste in personal attacks bother you then please stop reading my posts. But if you want to learn from me, debate with me, discredit me or shoot the shit with me - it would be great to have another tile pro here on Terry's site.
I will warn you that John Bridge does not like any of his members writing here. I think the posts further help beat his discussions lower in the google rankings or something.
I copied some of the discussion here so it can continue more appropriately -- feels that way -- , without unrelated interference on other members posts and concerns .
Link can be found here -- https://terrylove.com/forums/showthread.php?55096-Tile-detaching-from-Wedi-shower-pan -- .
