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    Question The tub diverter spout will not move!

    I've got a house that was built in 1928 and I have no idea how long the plumbing has been in the oldest bathroom in the house, but it certainly predates my time here. The tub diverter is dead, you can pull it up and it does nothing at all. It's a screw-off type, no set screw so it should be easy, right? Nope. It will not move. I did everything I could to it and eventually, after using a 14" pipe wrench on the thing and not having it move a millimeter, I grabbed my trusty reciprocating saw and hacked off the spout so I could get to the inner workings, you couldn't even tell what kind of attachment it was from the outside. Now, no matter what I do, I cannot get it to move at all. I've heated it with a propane torch. I've soaked it in Liquid Wrench. I've tried to rock it back and forth to break out whatever is inside and nothing works, it will not move at all. I cannot reach any of the pipes in the walls (they were sealed in, which leads me to believe these parts have been there for many decades, at least since the last addition to the house in the early 60s).

    So now what? The diverter is this type:

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    Someone please help!

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    You may need to figure out how your spout is installed and replace it. I would look for a set screw under the bottom or It may unscrew etc.

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    Most of the time, replacing the spout is the only reliable fix.
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    I guess people aren't reading what I wrote because I am trying to replace the spout and IT WILL NOT COME OFF THE WALL! I already explained this once.

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    You need a bigger wrench. A 14 inch pipe wrench is just a toy.

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    Can you see the pipe? If not, cut some more off. Maybe cut along the pipe and try to split it off. If there's no setscrew, with enough force, it will come out one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smooky View Post
    You need a bigger wrench. A 14 inch pipe wrench is just a toy.
    Unfortunately, there's no room for a bigger wrench, I'm wedged between the walls on both sides and the faucet stems. I pulled the handles to give myself as much room as possible but I'm at the point that the wrench I'm using hits the wall on both sides when fastened to the remnant of the diverter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadnashua View Post
    Can you see the pipe? If not, cut some more off. Maybe cut along the pipe and try to split it off. If there's no setscrew, with enough force, it will come out one way or the other.
    This is what I have left:

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    You can't really see the pipe, it's hidden behind a plate that is mounted onto the bottom of the diverter. I may have to carefully Dremel along the plate to see if I can cut enough to get the plate off. I thought having enough force would do it but so far, no go.

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    How far is it sticking out? It is hard to tell in the photo.

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    The silicon is probably holding everything in place. Tough to cut through. Maybe one of the pros will have seen that type and can offer some other suggestions.
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    Like Jim mentions, cut the Silicone off and then use a couple of these.



    You many need to resort to a hand drill to drill off the brass end, and then you can use an easy out on the pipe.
    Or you can drill the center and use an easy out.
    Or you can use plumbers pliers and muscle it off.

    That little piece of brass doesn't own you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Like Jim mentions, cut the Silicone off and then use a couple of these.



    You many need to resort to a hand drill to drill off the brass end, and then you can use an easy out on the pipe.
    Or you can drill the center and use an easy out.
    Or you can use plumbers pliers and muscle it off.

    That little piece of brass doesn't own you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadnashua View Post
    The silicon is probably holding everything in place. Tough to cut through. Maybe one of the pros will have seen that type and can offer some other suggestions.
    There is no silicone, I already cleared all of it out. The thing is only attached at the pipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smooky View Post
    How far is it sticking out? It is hard to tell in the photo.
    Maybe half an inch. I put my biggest set of locking pipe pliers on it and they just slip, the central bit is perfectly round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Like Jim mentions, cut the Silicone off and then use a couple of these.



    You many need to resort to a hand drill to drill off the brass end, and then you can use an easy out on the pipe.
    Or you can drill the center and use an easy out.
    Or you can use plumbers pliers and muscle it off.

    That little piece of brass doesn't own you.
    My next step is to drill out the center. I don't want to damage the pipe in the wall though because there is no access whatsoever to replace it. So far though, that piece of brass is beating me. When the whole spout was still there, I put a wrench into the open end of the spout and tried to twist it off that way and I broke the entire end of the spout off and the thing didn't move an inch.

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