Toto/Aquia

[Mike50]

I'm going for it. I'm shopping for best price in a day or two.
What's the deal with the rough in adapter? Do all ToTo's need that?
I have no idea what my rough in is (probably 12?)

Would it be better if my plumber looked at this situation first?
Or should I just buy that bad boy adapter now....?

This an evil website. 4 weeks ago I thought ToTo was Dorothy's little rat faced dog in the Wizard of Oz. Now Im buying a green toilet from Thailand..
go figure....

Comments/reviews appreciated...


Mike50

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[Mike50]

Also any explanation of the water trickle sound would be appreciated.
As another poster said a week ago-this aquia will go in the master bath adjoining bedroom.

Mike

[Terry]

Water trickel?

You're having that anyway when you "tinkle".

The toilet comes with the adapter for the standard 12" rough-in.

[Mike50]

Terry,

.....
Also, I've read in some of the posts that the plastic drain connection on the Aquia makes a trickling noise when liquid enters the bowl. Would wrapping this with insulation before sliding the toilet in place quiet this? Or is it really not that noticeable? The toilet will be in a master bath and it would be best if it was a s quiet as possible.

I guess I was confusing the sound issue with the washlet/aquia problem Johnl had with his. And there is no noise...

Mike50

[Spokaneman]

The roughin is the distance from the wall to the center of the flange. Most are 12", some are 10 and some are 14. Easy to measure. Toto's that use the unifit come with a 12" adapter, if the rough in is 10 or 14 you have to buy that adapter. The unifit is very easy to install, and installing the toilet over the unifit is also very easy, easier to me than putting a wax ring on the bottom of a standard toilet and trying to ease into a flange without damaging it.

I installed a couple of Vespins and it took me longer to get the things out of the shipping containers than it did to actually do the install.

[Mike50]

Thanks. Im not 100% sure if mine is a 12-but I think so. I was wondering if all Aquia's come with that adapter or it was a separate item.


As a side note: I'm really "getting" that the steeper bowl is necessary
for a low flush to do the job. That along with a smaller water spot
raises concerns with some people if you read between the lines on reviews etc.

I'm one to try newer technologies so Im willing to accept a somewhat lesser efficient 1.6 flush just to have this item.
Especially considering that this is the 2nd toilet and used only occasionally.

I went thru all these concerns when I bought my pellet stove to heat the home.
Newer tech raises newer issues both positive and negative.
If you cannot accept that then..play it safe-stick with what you know.
The pellet stove was a good decision and this is as well, I believe.

OTOH, my feeling about this would be entirely different if I were a plumber
designer or architect.

[Terry]

The bowl of the Aquia is fairly standard in shape, except that the lower part drops down sharply and has a small water spot. That is the case with most dual-flush toilet bowls.

[jadnashua]

Terry pointed out earlier that the Aquia can only use the 12" adapter...my guess is that unlike others that use it, the back is closed, and therefore no room for the toilet to slide one way or the other.

[Terry]

Look like I should take some pictures.

The Aquia adapter is unlike the Unifit.

It uses three pieces, one over the flange, and the bowl slides in from the front, not from the top,

And two blocks that screw to the floor.

It's apples and oranges here.
The parts on these don't mix.
Parts for for Aquia

[Mike50]

So...if my rough in isn't 12" then it wont work Jadnashua...?
I can't imagine that would be the case-but that is how your post reads..

I need to be sure it will fit before I go further.

Terry-Thank You for for the pic. It explains a lot.
IMO it's the best looking toilet in its class as well with that minimalist design.

[jadnashua]

The vast majority of toilets are 12" in the USA. If the flange is further away from the wall than that (measured to the middle - the bolt holes from the finished wall), then it will still work, but sit furtherfrom the wall. If the flange is too close, then there isn't enough room for it to fit. There is usually a little leaway thatdepends on the specific toilet of as much as an inch, usually less, so that something like say 11.5 might still work. Depends on the toilet...haven't looked at the spec sheet for this toilet...it will show the gap when installed properly.

[Mike50]

OK, Jadnashua...the bolt is exactly 12 inches from the wall.
so, I guess I'm in business..

[jadnashua]

Sounds good to me!

[Mike50]

Wow. This was a top 10 award winner from these folks at "Building Green".
good article.

Article:
http://www.buildinggreen.com/auth/ar...me=141110a.xml

Top 10:
http://www.buildinggreen.com/auth/ar...me=141207e.xml


I had a very interesting conversation with a rep from Toto recently.
I asked him his opinion of my local retailers around here. Dang, did I get an earfull, presumably off the record which I will not publish here.
He made some *interesting observations based on personal experience* about a well known supplier(s).
I'll just leave it at that...LOL

[Mike50]

Need some guidance here. My Aquia will be installed in a couple weeks.
I want to buy a plunger that will fit that extreme slope shape of bowl for when the occasion arises. I just want to be ready and buy one now.
I currently own a standard off the shelf (with that protruding lip).
I placed it in position inside the uninstalled Aquia and no-way will that make a seal.

I need a brand name. Terry??


thanks...

Mike50