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    Why would anybody want to replace a perfectly-good Toto with a Kohler? This "class" silliness is ALL MARKETING, kids. Flush "technology"? Ain't no "technology" in that Ingenium flush. Again, silliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
    Why would anybody want to replace a perfectly-good Toto with a Kohler? This "class" silliness is ALL MARKETING, kids. Flush "technology"? Ain't no "technology" in that Ingenium flush. Again, silliness.
    No, the Kohler is equal in quality and performance if not better. It is nowhere near silliness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwarsith88 View Post
    Good news! My grandparents ordered the Cimarron today! It's coming in tuesday! Also the cimarron is replacing an ingenium wellworth. Also, what flush technology is on your wellworth?
    Awesome! Your grandparents will be very happy, guaranteed. My Wellworth is a 2012 and has the Class 5 technology.
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    does that one have the improved class 5 flush? Also, why don't you do some flushing videos of it?
    If you need to go with a new toilet, go with a TOTO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwarsith88 View Post
    does that one have the improved class 5 flush? Also, why don't you do some flushing videos of it?
    I will do some of the Cimarron, but cant of the Wellworth because I haven't installed it yet. What would you like me to flush?
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    FWIW, there is NO industry standard for class X flushing on a toilet...it is something made up by Kohler and is typical, NIH, and now they're on their 5th or 6th version trying to get it right. So, you can take it as MAYBE a variation on a theme, entirely a Kohler thing, and their newest version may or may not be 'better' at flushing. Same idea with introducing a new car model...it's obviously 'better' than last year's model, and often, they try to attach some catchy phrase to it to help 'differentiate' it with the previous version.

    As to flush technology, there are gravity flush, pressure assisted flush, and a few others, typically only used in commercial situations. There are siphon jet bowls, and washdown bowls, and sometimes slight variations on that theme (like Toto's double cyclone - great bowl wash).

    Companies can call it what they want, and their execution and quality may differ (sometimes significantly), but the technology on all is relatively similar.
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    Also GoKohlerGo, what grade you going into? I'm going into 6th grade! I really want to go to the Kohler Factory!!!!!!!
    If you need to go with a new toilet, go with a TOTO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwarsith88 View Post
    Also GoKohlerGo, what grade you going into? I'm going into 6th grade! I really want to go to the Kohler Factory!!!!!!!
    I'm going in to my sophomore year of college. I LOVE the Kohler Factory, i went on a tour in August 2012. The design center-you will be amazed at what is there, they have EVERYTHING you could think of for a bathroom or kitchen.
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    I am so happy! We are going to pick up the new Cimarron tomorrow! I can't wait! And, if the kohler cimarron is good, we might be putting in a Kohler Memoirs Stately toilet in our house!
    If you need to go with a new toilet, go with a TOTO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwarsith88 View Post
    I am so happy! We are going to pick up the new Cimarron tomorrow! I can't wait! And, if the kohler cimarron is good, we might be putting in a Kohler Memoirs Stately toilet in our house!
    Awesome!! The Memoirs is awesome too. They both are very good.
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