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    Default American Standard Push-Pull Shower Valve

    American Standard made a Push-Pull Shower Valve in the 60's
    For years my parents had one of these in their home, and sometimes I see them on jobs. It's hard to find out much about them, so here are some pictures of a valve I removed and replaced.



    You basic American Standard Push-Pull shower valve








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    Well, the mechanism was first used by Schaible for their sink faucets in the 50s, then Sears adopted it for their Lady Kenmore line, later American Standard used it on their first "control tower" sinks, (which then became a disaster), and finally it wound up in the push/pull line of bathroom faucets in the 60s. The problem with the design is that the handle turns the faucet on, but springs have to turn it off and if the spring or stem gets stuck on something, there is NOTHING in the universe that is going to turn it off until you take it apart. My boss's doctor had a Shaible faucet in his kitchen on the North side of Chicago and we were in the South suburbs. Every so often, until I got fed up and changed the faucet, it would stick and I had to go up there and "unstick" it. Someone was making a "Moen" style retrofit "front end" for the push/pull but I have not seen it for years.
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    I wound up replacing with a Moen Posi-Temp and 1920 remodel plate and TL182 trim. Access to the wall behind was going to be very tough.





    Shown with a Delta RP17453 tub spout will "pull-down" diverter.
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    Eventually the hole in the valve body where the guide post (#28) goes wears larger and things get sloppy. At that point the valve is trash because the cam & shaft (#26) won't engage the stem (#22) correctly. Until that point I have had good success rebuilding them. Their day is about done, however.

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    The round handle must have be an aftermarket replacement, because the tub, shower, and lav faucets all had the "T" handle. I saw a Moen display yesterday which had an elongated trim escutcheon so you did not need the "remodel plate.
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    HI
    can you tell me if there are any trim kits that would work with this valve. Shower redo on the cheap, the valve is working fine but needs a cosmetic makeover.
    Thank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody J View Post
    HI
    can you tell me if there are any trim kits that would work with this valve. Shower redo on the cheap, the valve is working fine but needs a cosmetic makeover.
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    No. I don't think anything has been made for that valve in forty years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    No. I don't think anything has been made for that valve in forty years.
    thanks for answering me.....so theres no way a moen rothbury push pull would work on that then correct?...what about the universal Delta or Pfister trim kit?? I havent found any that are volume and temp as of yet though

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    Well..........you don't use a Chevy waterpump with a Ford engine.

    If you look farther up, that's one of the reasons we removed it. It was no longer working well, and we can't get parts anymore.
    Other brands are incompatible with it.
    There is no interchange between the brands.

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    Just in case some other poor soul comes across this thread in search of an easy way to repair their old Push-pull valve, rebuild kits are available online. I just ordered one and will be attempting the repair. The kit is here http://www.nyrpcorp.com/american-sta...-kit-n1030-kit

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