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    Default Rain Soft softner problems

    I currently have a rain soft water softer that was installed by previous owners. Model number is 30906. I dont have any manuals that came with it at all. All ive been doing for last 5 years is put salt in. Well what ive noticed is when it does its back flush (dont know if proper term) It goes on for hours. When it does stop it still has a trickling flow from that hose. Any ideas what could be issue. Like i said i dont even know how to use this thing.

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    Could be a lot of things. Is the timer properly set? What is the backwash time supposed to be? If you are not sure what the water conditions are then adjusting the settings is hit or miss. Besides that there may be mechanical problems with the timer or the valve. In short, we need more information. Get a water test done, take a picture of the valve with the cover off and we can go from there.
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    Thanks for reply. I have no idea how to work this thing. Ive tried numerous time online to look for some sort of manual. I've also contacted manufacturer and nothing. Here is apicture of it and i just took all salt out and cleaned that tank. Its doing a forced purge now see if that helps.Name:  watersoftner.jpg
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    For starts it is the Rainsoft twist on the Fleck 5000 proflo valve.
    The water to the drain is because your system is going to need a rebuild of the main piston and seal pack. By looking up the fleck proflo or fleck 5000 you will be able to find the parts needed.
    http://www.pentairwatertreatment.com...+ProFloSXT.htm
    The way to control the valve is different but the working of the main part is the same.
    And here is the manual for your valve and timer
    http://www.rainsoftofthesouthland.co...als/AMC75T.pdf
    Between the two manuals you should be good to go in setting it up and finding the parts needed for getting challenges corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Could be a lot of things. Is the timer properly set? What is the backwash time supposed to be? If you are not sure what the water conditions are then adjusting the settings is hit or miss. Besides that there may be mechanical problems with the timer or the valve. In short, we need more information. Get a water test done, take a picture of the valve with the cover off and we can go from there.
    LOL YOU need more info and should have stopped with asking for a picture. He has water going to drain after a regeneration. The time of day has nothing to do with his problem. He doesn't need to test his water yet. Take note of AKpsdvan's post, that's how you troubleshoot and help DIYers.

    As to the valve, over the last 15-20+/- years they have used a proprietary type Fleck 5000/Proflo or 5600.
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    CAUTION, as of Nov 12 2013 all YouTube videos showing how to rebuild a Clack valve have an error in them that can cause damage.

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    Thanks Akpsdvan. I have cleaned valves and only noticed lil white gunk of sorts on them. Cleaned everything up and it started with a bit of trickling water. I'm gonna let it sit overnight and get back tomorrow with any results or non.

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    Well excuse me but I don't servic rain soft, nobody carries rain soft in this area. With the picture I'd have had an answer for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wikid321 View Post
    Thanks Akpsdvan. I have cleaned valves and only noticed lil white gunk of sorts on them. Cleaned everything up and it started with a bit of trickling water. I'm gonna let it sit overnight and get back tomorrow with any results or non.
    If you changed the location of the seals while you had it apart and are still getting water to the drain then a new seal and spacer kit is going to be needed along with a new piston for the Fleck 5000/ProFlo.......
    Waiting over night for it to change is not going to happen.

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    I wouldn't have answered him Tom. I thought you gave good advise. For some reason he has a hard on for some of us.

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    If you don't feed the troll occasionally it gets all bitter and dried up. LOL
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    Tom, I concur,your answer was correct. It was the same answer I would have given. I used to think trolls could change over time, I guess that is just a myth.

    Since I am not overly familiar with this variant on the 5000, but I am extremely knowledgable of the proflo, does this variant retain the one way bearing that was such a problem on the 5000. The 5000 electrmechanical was finally pulled from the market after repeated attempts to correct the problem clutch issue with the one way bearing and was replaced with the SE version. Different lubricants etc were attempted, but the longevity of the motor continued to be a problem. This was almost 15 years ago, but I do know of a few electromechanical 5000's still working.

    http://www.pentairwatertreatment.com...0Lubricant.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditttohead View Post
    I used to think trolls could change over time, I guess that is just a myth.
    You know, for a short while I noticed a change for the better. Thought maybe he was back on his meds before realizing that Terry stripped him of mod powers. I guess the old dog is back to his old tricks.

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    He's fine. I wouldn't change him for the world
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    Trolls do keep you on your toes, knowing that they are looking for any mis-step, any typo, or any opportunity to threaten you. LOL, I hope he stays off the meds, I think it is the 3-4 packs of nicotine a day that keep him so riled up.

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    Well heres my update. Last night it went on doing its regeneration thing for over like two hours if not more. Once i woke up this morning not one leak. Its now 10 hours later and still looking good. Thanks for advice Akpsdvan. Never would of imagined just cleaning up these piece would cause such a big thing.

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