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    Default Some kind of script error; IE8 sometimes locking up; bogus "Private Message" notices

    While posting (or maybe just while editing a post), I have occasionally been getting a notice from IE8 that some kind of script is taking too long and causing trouble, and I suspect that might be coming from whatever it is that sometimes places commercial advertising within posts...and then after telling IE to stop that script, IE freezes after completing the post and I have to close it ("end program") completely and restart it (and log in again) altogether. Also, I have now twice been met with a bogus "You have private messages" banner that is apparently also some kind of tricky "Please click me!" bait for whatever might be beyond that click...but I learned long ago to never click anything unless I know exactly what will come next.

    No complaints of any kind here since I already many internet moguls no longer care about things working properly with IE8, Terry, but just thought you might want to know!

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    I use Chrome a lot, and find that if I don't empty the history every so often, I wind up with 502 errors.

    So every so often now, I close everything, and then empty the trash so to speak. I've been using Crap Cleaner for that. Great name for it? I just thought of how that sounds. Oh my.

    It's okay to click on the ads though.
    I get those from Google, so I think they are safe. It's just people buying advertising on the site.
    I would click on them, but I can't. Sometimes I see things I'm interested in, but I can't click them from my site.
    If I'm on other sites I do.
    Last edited by Terry; 07-19-2013 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    ...every so often now, I close everything, and then empty the trash so to speak. I've been using Crap Cleaner for that. Great name for it? I just thought of how that sounds. Oh my.
    That was its name back in the day when first written, but then its author cleaned things up a bit by changing its name to CCleaner! I do not know any greater details there, but it looks to me like he makes out well today after getting started by giving it away and only providing a "Donate" button. I still use the free version, but the "Donate" button is no longer there.
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    I was just browsing the site here and got an IE message I have never seen before:
    "Internet Explorer has modified this page to prevent cross-site scripting."

    After doing a Google search, I found this:
    "I have found many advertisers using XSS in flash and text advertisements...
    "The XSS warning might be something your site shows often which should be your first clue to start rethinking your scripts and your advertisers."
    http://www.xtremecomputer.com/commun...ie-xss-filters
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    IE8 has become a Hog.

    I use Firefox most and use IE for testing only.

    If you go into the Task Manager you may find more than 1 iexplore.exe process running. Some are hidden windows.

    iexplore.exe will most likely be hogging the CPU.

    If you are going to use IE then it is best to disable Flash.


    Why Flash is even needed for ads is a mystery to me. A animated gif can do just as well.
    Last edited by DonL; 07-21-2013 at 05:09 AM.
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    LET ME BE VERY CLEAR ON THIS...
    Anyone who still uses Internet Explorer is a computer fool. IE is insecure and unstable and the most attacked browser on the internet.
    I don't really like Chrome.. but its a personal thing.. I don't have any real problem with it.

    Use FireFox.. make sure to get the NoScript and AdBlockPlus add-ons as well as the DO-NOT-TRACK-ME addon. Secure, fast browsing with few worries. Can be a bit unstable sometimes however but its a minor issue when compared to security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy625 View Post
    Anyone who still uses Internet Explorer is a computer fool.
    Not really. About half the people in this world still have nothing other than or beyond IE8 available, and that is an issue every site owner has to ponder while deciding the matter of his or her website's IE-compatibility. Personally, I have paid significant amouts of money to developers along that kind of line. But either way, even Firefox is behind in development related to the ever-changing web and the kinds of things causing IE to want to block or stop certain scripts such as I have mentioned here. Chrome is said to be making best-use of multi-core processors, but I never have more than two and have yet to ever use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leejosepho View Post
    Not really. About half the people in this world still have nothing other than or beyond IE8 available, and that is an issue every site owner has to ponder while deciding the matter of his or her website's IE-compatibility.
    Oh I completely agree. My own website is designed with that exact principle in mind but that doesn't change the fact that IE shouldn't be used. The ONLY reason so many people use IE is because it comes bundled with the operating system.

    Personally, I have paid significant amouts of money to developers along that kind of line.
    Websites using advanced php, java, and various other bells and whistles are the ones that run into those compatibility issues. Keep the site simple and stay away from all that funky stuff and it takes a lot less effort to be compatible.

    But either way, even Firefox is behind in development related to the ever-changing web and the kinds of things causing IE to want to block or stop certain scripts such as I have mentioned here. Chrome is said to be making best-use of multi-core processors, but I never have more than two and have yet to ever use it.
    My firefox has a script blocker that doesn't allow anything beyond HTML to run without my approval. That's the way all browsers should be set up. If you're using IE, you better only visit sites you very well know and trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy625 View Post
    Websites using advanced php, java, and various other bells and whistles are the ones that run into those compatibility issues. Keep the site simple and stay away from all that funky stuff and it takes a lot less effort to be compatible.
    Is there any particular platform or whatever you might recommend? I am presently running WordPress and a customized theme having its own structure needing to be known and understood along with whatever else.
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    Html 5 looks good for the most part, and a good Text editor.

    Everyone needs to get on the same page for compatibility.

    If I have a problem with security on any page, I will seek the offender and block the address in my Hosts file.

    Sites do need to pay more attention and what Advertisements they allow on their site.


    Now that people are hacking Forums that use VB, You can never be to careful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leejosepho View Post
    Is there any particular platform or whatever you might recommend? I am presently running WordPress and a customized theme having its own structure needing to be known and understood along with whatever else.
    It all depends on what your website is trying to accomplish. I keep my website in mostly basic HTML with a few java applets for different menu functions.

    www.MurphysMachines.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy625 View Post
    It all depends on what your website is trying to accomplish. I keep my website in mostly basic HTML with a few java applets for different menu functions.

    www.MurphysMachines.com

    That is a nice clean website.

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    I have not tried newer versions of IE to see what happens with them, Terry, but those ads inside of posts here are definitely giving IE8 fits. The people paying you to put those ads in there will or would likely tell you to tell me to get a newer browser, but, well. whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leejosepho View Post
    I have not tried newer versions of IE to see what happens with them, Terry, but those ads inside of posts here are definitely giving IE8 fits. The people paying you to put those ads in there will or would likely tell you to tell me to get a newer browser, but, well. whatever.
    Wow... It's like I was talking to a wall.

    I don't know you leejosepho, but please trust me on this issue as it is something I do know about... While I'm always the first to admit that I am no longer up to date on all the latest goodies, I am in my mid 40's and have been a computer super geek for 25+ years since the days of MSDOS required you to know how to use directory commands to navigate a computer. I was surfing the "internet" before the first Windows came out or anyone had even heard the words "world wide web". (back when it was just a bunch of colleges and other organizations linked together)
    Switch to Firefox! Install the following add-ons (No Script, Add Block Plus, Do Not Track Me) and your internet and your computer will magically work faster.. Pages load quicker, evil computer hacking scripts are disabled, those pesky ads just vanish, and everything is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphy625 View Post
    Wow... It's like I was talking to a wall.
    Not at all. I understand about different browsers and I happen to use Firefox here on my morning machine. My situation (such as at the sites I manage) is just that I think more people should put more efforts into keeping things backward-compatible for as long as possible for folks that know little or nothing about browsers and/or that only have older ones available to them. Knowing virtually nothing about any of this, I got into WordPress a little under a year ago, then began discovering problems when I later switched to a newer theme that is "mobile-first". People told me it looked fine on their phones, but certain desktops were not showing bullets in the password box during login. I now understand at least a little about IE being a PITA for developers and coders, but leaving it in the dust is not an option for me.
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