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    Hi. I'm trying to install a new garbage disposal.

    I took the old one out (Kitchenaid) but I can't get the rest of the drain out because this ring is stuck (shown in pic).
    Any tricks to getting this thing off. I don't think it's threaded.

    I also can't figure a way to retrofit the new Badger to the existing drain. The existing is too big.

    Any help appreciated.
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    IT is probably installed with silicone caulking. Hit the bottom of it with a hammer and drive it up out of the sink opening.
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    Thanks hj. There are notches in the ring that need to line up with the nubs on the drain part so it will pass over the nubs.
    I'm all for hammers and duck tape and gittin er done, just worried about bending the sink hole....

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    Your picture is out of focus, so it's hard to say, but it does look like there's a bead of silicon there. If so, it may be a real bear getting it out of there without damaging the sink. THen, to get a good seal, you have to scrape off all of the old caulk and silicon is a pain, especially when laying on your back underneath the sink! Personally, I'd leave it there and install a replacement from the ISE line (they make them for other companies, so there are multiple brands that fit exactly the same). Some steel wool on the inside of the drain from the top and it should look like new. The ISE Evolution series is very quiet and has a decent warranty.
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    Thanks Jim. Looking at the pic I can see how you guys think there is silicone. But, I'm pretty sure there is no sealant of any kind (except for rust).

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    Have you tried twisting the chrome part hanging down with a big pair of channel locks or a pipe wrench? You might have to tear it up to get it out.

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    Looks like silicone to me too. Do you have a sawzall? A good minute is all you would need. I would not pound on it with a hammer.

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    A strap wrench would help to rotate it and break it free.

    A Large Oil Filter wrench may work, If you do not have a strap wrench.


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    once you loosen it with the hammer, it will rotate to line up with the notches.
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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Gonna go get some PB Blaster and a new sawzall blade. I just don't know where to cut it where the blade will bite.
    (and, maybe a bigger hammer)

    Anyway, that is last resort I think.

    So, here's another pic that shows no silicone.Name:  DSC00015.jpg
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    That is a better Picture.

    I think you may find that it unscrews.


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    Isn't it just a back-up ring with a rubber gasket above? If that's the case I'd pry between the ring and gasket with a stiff puddy knife or screwdriver tip to break free, then rotate once loose, might be corroded to drain?

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    Is it off yet?

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    Couldn't get it off.
    Tried all the suggestions but got nowhere.
    finally took a sawzall to the drain hoping to cut some notches so the drain would squeeze smaller or somethin.
    nicked the sink. woops.
    I'm watching Craigslist for a new sink..

    I didn't mention that I am in the middle of a kitchen remodel, which makes this a particular pain in the ass as I will have to replace the sink again whenever I get around to the new counter (undermount).
    c'est la vie.

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    When I originally read sawzall, I saw a new sink coming.

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