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    usually they do not want to become signatory to the union because it can be expensive, and they give up a fair amount of autonomy as far as what the can, and cannot do, with the workers. Take you wife with you and you will be put into the same file as those who bring their mothers and fathers to the negotiations, and are forgotten about. My union schooling was the best, but I cannot vouch for all union trade schools. Mine was one day a week and, it was a "paid" day, for 3 years. I skipped the first year and started as a second year apprentice. The fifth year was supposed to be a preparation for journeyman status, but I had been doing that since I started.
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    Yep they told us in the orientation meeting that there union school in Dallas is 2 nights a week 5pm to 9pm from Aug to May.
    I would never bring anyone to fight my battles or negotiate i can do that on my own i am a grown man.
    No matter i will never give up and just keep going and sooner or later i will get what i want.
    Thanks for you guys responses.

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    That probably means it is on "your own time". In my case it was one day a week 8;00 a.m. to 4:30, same as any other work day and I was paid the same as if i were working in the field.
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    just find some plumbing contractor looking for help on craigslist. get some experience while you are waiting for all this union BS. get your hands dirty, learn some basic stuff and have some better answers for the next union job interview. unless you have a better job now.

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    Yep i have been getting on craigslist ever day for the last year looking for any kind of helpers job and even got the phone book out and called small shops and larger one.
    Every one wants a helper with experience they keep telling me or they never reply back.
    I feel like Union is my only chance of breaking into plumbing.
    Guess all i can do is keep trying and hope something works out,Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismaddox3d View Post
    Yep i have been getting on craigslist ever day for the last year looking for any kind of helpers job and even got the phone book out and called small shops and larger one.
    Every one wants a helper with experience they keep telling me or they never reply back.
    I feel like Union is my only chance of breaking into plumbing.
    Guess all i can do is keep trying and hope something works out,Thanks

    I would start looking at the Glassdoor website.

    Real employers will NOT be on craigslist, other than to see what You have been up to.

    I did a Electronic Apprenticeship in the 70s just to get my Licenses to repair Consumer Electronics in a state that required it.

    I was working for Montgomery Ward under a licensed Technician and finished a lot sooner, because all of my 40 hour work week was counted. I was able to take my required test in 6 Months, and I passed.

    When Montgomery Ward went belly-up, I moved to Texas and no licenses was required, and I got a better job at NASA. Go figure.


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    Yep i noticed Glassdoor website has jobs posted but nothing for a helper with no experience.
    Really wish one these construction companies like tradesmen international who brought me in and took my application would hire me for any contract work.
    I guess they see my back ground in Sales and Marketing and think this guy could not handle this or something.
    Thanks for everyone replies so far.

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    Here in Ct EVERYONE working in the trades has to be licensed or hold an apprentice card or the job can be shut down. The state mandates a minimum wage with 5% raises every six months. For example my son is an apprentice well driller and has to make $10.50 minimum, after 6000 hrs when he gets his "2" license he has to be paid $21.00 an hour. Pretty good when you consider some people with college degrees can't find a job, especially one that will double their rate of pay in three years.

    My advice, find a plumbing contractor that will put you into a apprentice program so you can prove to the union that you are serious about becoming a plumber and not just killing time.

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    Been looking for a plumber contractor of any type or any plumber to put me to work.
    It can be temp or full time or part time i am not worried about that right now.
    Well got my big interview with the Union coming this week and hope all goes well.
    They told me i should know a result with in a month or so.
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    Well i did my interview yesterday and i felt all went way better than last time.
    They said i would know something in a month or so.
    Really hope i get in this time and really excited to find out.
    Will let everyone know,Thanks

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    Getting "into" the union just puts you on the list with all the other applicants. You still need to wait until some contractor asks the union to send them an apprentice and your name comes up.
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    Least i get to do schooling from August till May if i get accepted into the school this time.
    Hope the schooling can teach me something while i wait to get out there.
    I know last year i did not get accepted into the school and was labeled pro visionary plumber.
    The Union would call me if they needed me and the people who got in the school were always put to work before me.
    Which makes prefect sense since they were accepted by the Union.

    Funny thing in this interview they told me you have been here before we remember you.
    So at least they know i have interviewed before and really want this.
    Will keep everyone updated,Thanks

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    Just to update this forum i did not get in with the Union after 2nd time.
    Guess i will try for a 3rd year in a row next year.
    Still trying and calling around and asking if anyone needs a plumbers helper and so far nothing.
    I found a place on Craigslist said call for a interview no experience needed and wanting someone for 4yr apprentice job.
    So far i have called 3 times this week and every they tell me the person is out in the trade and will call me back and never has so far.
    Just not sure how and if i will ever get a change to become a plumber in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismaddox3d View Post
    Just to update this forum i did not get in with the Union after 2nd time.
    Guess i will try for a 3rd year in a row next year.
    Still trying and calling around and asking if anyone needs a plumbers helper and so far nothing.
    I found a place on Craigslist said call for a interview no experience needed and wanting someone for 4yr apprentice job.
    So far i have called 3 times this week and every they tell me the person is out in the trade and will call me back and never has so far.
    Just not sure how and if i will ever get a change to become a plumber in my life.

    Nice that you stopped by to update.

    You should not give up.

    Unions are not that much in, now a days. They have bankrupt GM and other big companies. The UAW was one reason Detroit is in trouble.

    Maybe you could start out working for Home Depot or something.


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    I checked Home Depot and could not find any openings for a plumber.
    Ever Plumbers helper job i find no experience needed is always filled or they never reply back on Craigslist or etc.
    Been looking for couple years now and it feels hopeless but i will not give up my search.
    I would figure big as Dallas,tx area is i could find something.
    Thanks

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