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    Default Kohler Angle Stops - Kohler Quality

    I've always used Kohler Angle Stops in exposed applications.
    While 1/4 ball valves are the new thing, I've preferred the Kohler for a aesthetics value...


    Just got some in. All nice sealed boxes.
    Is it me, or has quality gone downhill. There are nicks-not smooth chrome on both the included chrome nipples and risers.
    The valve body seems OKAY.

    However, compared to prior purchased, the finishes on everything was FLAWLESS....

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    And you really think Kohler is making their own angle stops?
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    Maybe it's not made by them but subbed out - but I've yet to come across another angle stop that loops like them...in both fit and finish....
    Regardless, someone/somebody is accountable for QC
    I also use their heavy cast brass chromed p trap on exposed applications....

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    While I've not actually seen them, people have indicated that Dahl makes some really nice shutoffs. http://www.dahlvalve.com/index.html
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    quote; I also use their heavy cast brass chromed p trap on exposed applications.

    Anyone who uses Kohler's traps and angle stops, must have a printing press in the basement where they make their own money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hj View Post
    quote; I also use their heavy cast brass chromed p trap on exposed applications.

    Anyone who uses Kohler's traps and angle stops, must have a printing press in the basement where they make their own money.
    Nah, the Chef lives near the Treasury department; maybe they give out samples?
    I am definitely not a pro plumber, but I am a pro crastinator

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadnashua View Post
    While I've not actually seen them, people have indicated that Dahl makes some really nice shutoffs. http://www.dahlvalve.com/index.html
    Dahl IMO makes the best shutoffs and I use them in *non exposed* applications - sink cabs.
    They're 1/4 turn and Canadian *North American* made.

    I'll grab a pic of the two side by side.

    The Kohler is more a beauty pagent valve, aka. - my preferred unit for Exposed Applications.

    As far as *cost* is concerned, it's all relative in the grand scheme of things .......so to have a $$ valve or P trap.....that I can notice the aesthetic difference....then it's not that expensive to me........


    The post was just to clarify if anyone has seen the decline in the QC with this particular lineup.
    I have 3 boxes, all with sh1tty, nicked chrome fittings. Nicked as in nicked with the chrome layer ontop. So it was *nicked* during production.
    For the $, I don't think expect this.
    And previous purchases of said LIKE item, the quality of every piece down to the riser tubes were flawless.

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