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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    1 foot ?

    Wait for a good rain, then you can gather them up.
    I thought it was glennsparky that was throwing a wet blanket on this
    How'd I miss this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    I thought it was glennsparky that was throwing a wet blanket on this
    How'd I miss this thread?

    You've been down on the muffin ? lol

    That seems to make men miss everything, except the job in hand.


    Maybe he would have been better off using UV protected Electrical Conduit.


    How goes it Bob ? What would you have done ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    You've been down on the muffin ? lol

    That seems to make men miss everything, except the job in hand.


    Maybe he would have been better off using UV protected Electrical Conduit.


    How goes it Bob ? What would you have done ?
    You got me pegged Don, but you make it sound like
    my favorite group is Mary Fist and the five fingers.

    Electrical PVC Conduit is grey and is bell and spigot joint, but just as plain jane, even when painted. The main point everybody is trying to make here is that even if it looks nice, you cannot make up your own lamps, although on HGTV they do. JW is right, especially if what you make is going on somebody else's property and makes you lible for everything mentioned by him and everybody else here. Things I may have done temporarily on my own property, I would never do on somebody else's.

    It is amazing, though, what has been tested by UL and other labs like ETL and approved, fail anyway. Years ago I had a ceiling fan/lamp installed with 60 watt bulbs in 60 watt rated ceramic bulb sockets overheat the "hi temp" wiring attached to those sockets and char so badly that the insulation broke off and the conductors "almost" touched the metal brackets, but did not. Its not like where a speedometer that goes up to 120, but you should never drive that fast. I feel if a socket is rated for 60 watts, its not OK to install a larger wattage, but 60 should be fine. Anyway, I contacted UL those (probably at least 10 years ago) and sent them photos, but they said they would forward the photos and info to somebody and get back to me; they never did.

    The sockets were made in China, but UL listed, so it was legal to use them. Sad, but funny. could have caused a fire maybe, or a heart attack.

    I have been busy with spring yard cleanup work. 50 bags of leaves out of my back yard, and I have not even one tree in my back yard, just surrounded by 5 neighbors who have trees hanging over into my yard.
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    I do what I want on my own property.

    I use uncommon sense and do my electrical better than the NEC minimum requirement.

    A insurance company will find something wrong when you go to make a claim.


    It was funny when I had my house inspected by the insurance company, when she seen my inside doorbell, she said so you have a security system, You get a 20% discount. I almost started laughing.

    I did have a security and fire warning system so I did not say anything about her looking at the doorbell. I got my 20% discount.


    Bob, You should not look a gift horse in the mouth.

    Leaves make for great compost, and you can use them in your garden. I have my plants planted already.

    Sounds like you have plenty of sunlight, If you have no trees. Your garden must do great.


    Watch out for falling Light Poles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
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    I do what I want on my own property.

    I use uncommon sense and do my electrical better than the NEC minimum requirement.

    A insurance company will find something wrong when you go to make a claim.


    It was funny when I had my house inspected by the insurance company, when she seen my inside doorbell, she said so you have a security system, You get a 20% discount. I almost started laughing.

    I did have a security and fire warning system so I did not say anything about her looking at the doorbell. I got my 20% discount.


    Bob, You should not look a gift horse in the mouth.

    Leaves make for great compost, and you can use them in your garden. I have my plants planted already.

    Sounds like you have plenty of sunlight, If you have no trees. Your garden must do great.


    Watch out for falling Light Poles.


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    Don, the only light pole I have in my yard is a 20 footer of 4 inch galvanized pipe 3 feet or more into a concrete foundation I put in myself 40 years ago. It has not fallen down yet, and only shows a little rust up top where the PVC cap screws on to the top. I have a 10/2 plus ground UF cable feeding it. Back then I did not know about codes, so I just went and did what I thought was proper or overkill.

    I have an electric leaf shredder, which to me is useless, but my wife bought it for me 12 years ago. I will now donate it to Habitat ReStore. It works fine, but wastes too much time and produces way too much brown dust requiring a heavy duty dust mask and clothing change. Shredding 5 bags worth of leaves into one bag makes one HEAVY bag for me to get from my back yard 200 feet to the curb. We don't like leaf mulch anyway. My wife is the gardener; I'm just the laborer and at 70, I'm getting tired of it. What a guy won't do though for a happy ending.


    My town has a huge composting facilty, so they take my leaves at the curb, grind it all up, compost it, and allow us residents, if we want to, to pick up unlimited amounts for free for our own use. They'll even deliver a whole truckload to my hoouse if I want for 45 bucks. What I do not like with that stuff, is it is always LOADED with little flies and other bugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    Don, the only light pole I have in my yard is a 20 footer of 4 inch galvanized pipe 3 feet or more into a concrete foundation I put in myself 40 years ago. It has not fallen down yet, and only shows a little rust up top where the PVC cap screws on to the top. I have a 10/2 plus ground UF cable feeding it. Back then I did not know about codes, so I just went and did what I thought was proper or overkill.

    I have an electric leaf shredder, which to me is useless, but my wife bought it for me 12 years ago. I will now donate it to Habitat ReStore. It works fine, but wastes too much time and produces way too much brown dust requiring a heavy duty dust mask and clothing change. Shredding 5 bags worth of leaves into one bag makes one HEAVY bag for me to get from my back yard 200 feet to the curb. We don't like leaf mulch anyway. My wife is the gardener; I'm just the laborer and at 70, I'm getting tired of it. What a guy won't do though for a happy ending.


    My town has a huge composting facilty, so they take my leaves at the curb, grind it all up, compost it, and allow us residents, if we want to, to pick up unlimited amounts for free for our own use. They'll even deliver a whole truckload to my hoouse if I want for 45 bucks. What I do not like with that stuff, is it is always LOADED with little flies and other bugs.
    Wow and there you go that's how it done. Sounds like when I made my second flag pole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron Fields View Post
    Wow and there you go that's how it done. Sounds like when I made my second flag pole.
    And it is very pretty if you just close your eyes and imagine.
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    B.S. No testing lab is going to lick 'em and stick 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobelectric View Post
    B.S. No testing lab is going to lick 'em and stick 'em.
    If you are referring to my post number 48, here are some photosName:  DSCN0095.jpg
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    I promise you that the bulbs in there were 60 watt incandescant mini reflectors that were shown on their boxes for ceiling fan use. Being that all ceiling fans typically have their light fixtures with bulbs base up, a lot of the heat goes into the socket. So even if UL tested these units in prototype samples or whatever, these, all 4, failed.
    The fan as you can see was from Home Depot. You can see some of the insulation marked 105o C insulation I believe.

    BS you say? not from me.
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    That rating must be with the Fan on High to cool them off.

    That is kind of crazy looking.


    UL, meant Un-Listed on that part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
    That rating must be with the Fan on High to cool them off.

    That is kind of crazy looking.


    UL, meant Un-Listed on that part.
    maybe yah fei means yuk-yuk?

    but it was built to code and had the max lamp wattage that they indicated was safe to use. If it killed me somehow, everybody else's ass would be covered cause it met code. Who would my wife sue? the bulb mfg maybe, because a lab test showed the bulb drew actually 63 watts at 117 volts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL43 View Post
    maybe yah fei means yuk-yuk?

    but it was built to code and had the max lamp wattage that they indicated was safe to use. If it killed me somehow, everybody else's ass would be covered cause it met code. Who would my wife sue? the bulb mfg maybe, because a lab test showed the bulb drew actually 63 watts at 117 volts?

    Yep the Bulb Manufacture like to lie about their bulb rating.

    I recently just tested some New LED lights from different makers.

    Many of them test at a higher Wattage on their input rating.

    The wattage should be the same, with a small variation in current, depending on the voltage.

    They must want people to think they are getting something for nothing.


    People do like Big numbers, Unless the big numbers are in the price.
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    I am with you screw the NEC my light poles have been there almost a year and are still standing! even after this mild storm and smelting heat!
    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
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    I do what I want on my own property.

    I use uncommon sense and do my electrical better than the NEC minimum requirement.

    A insurance company will find something wrong when you go to make a claim.


    It was funny when I had my house inspected by the insurance company, when she seen my inside doorbell, she said so you have a security system, You get a 20% discount. I almost started laughing.

    I did have a security and fire warning system so I did not say anything about her looking at the doorbell. I got my 20% discount.


    Bob, You should not look a gift horse in the mouth.

    Leaves make for great compost, and you can use them in your garden. I have my plants planted already.

    Sounds like you have plenty of sunlight, If you have no trees. Your garden must do great.


    Watch out for falling Light Poles.


    73

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    I am with you screw the NEC my light poles have been there almost a year and are still standing! even after this mild storm and smelting heat!
    Quote Originally Posted by DonL View Post
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    I do what I want on my own property.

    I use uncommon sense and do my electrical better than the NEC minimum requirement.

    A insurance company will find something wrong when you go to make a claim.


    It was funny when I had my house inspected by the insurance company, when she seen my inside doorbell, she said so you have a security system, You get a 20% discount. I almost started laughing.

    I did have a security and fire warning system so I did not say anything about her looking at the doorbell. I got my 20% discount.


    Bob, You should not look a gift horse in the mouth.

    Leaves make for great compost, and you can use them in your garden. I have my plants planted already.

    Sounds like you have plenty of sunlight, If you have no trees. Your garden must do great.


    Watch out for falling Light Poles.


    73

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