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    Default Need toilet that (hopefully) won't clog, looking for pressure assist

    I recently purchased a home that was built in 1921. After about a month in the home, my toilet clogged, and unfortunately, I only have one bathroom in the house. I had Water Works out. Because of how small the bathroom is, they couldn't bring in the equipment to run a camera. The plumber was able to get some equipment in and he did clear the line. He stated that the pipes takes a number of turns and that it may be susceptible to future clogs. He suggested that I buy a power assist toilet.

    The toilet I have now is a Delta 1.28 pgf and assume it's an inexpensive toilet. I paid $414 (or something like that) to have Water Works clear the line, so I really don't want to go through this again.

    So I am searching the internet for advise on toilets. I'm a novice with toilets/plumbing and would appreciate any help. Looking for value - not sure I can fork out $500+ but might be willing to spend $400 or a bit more.

    Some more details that I've been told come into play:

    --it's a 12" rough-in.
    --I don't know what the water pressure level is in the house
    --as mentioned above, it's a tight area
    --My contractor tells me there is no clean out
    --I live in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio - I see that shipping charges can be steep if buying online

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    Several companies make pressure assist toilet.
    Kohler has an ADA Highline model with Flushmate pressure assist,
    Gerber has the Ultraflush line with Flushmate pressure assist.

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    The question that few people answer is whether pressure assist in a toilet really accomplishes anything beyond a couple of feet down the line.

    I think not.

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    The question that few people answer is whether pressure assist in a toilet really accomplishes anything beyond a couple of feet down the line.
    The Flushmate system does do a good job with moving things down the line. I will try to post some of my video of that taken at the Flushmate factory in Detroit.

    Last edited by Terry; 04-28-2013 at 03:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    It does. I will try to post some of my video of that taken at the Flushmate factory in Detroit.
    That would be interesting.

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    I would be interested in seeing the Flushmate video as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacher_chick View Post
    The question that few people answer is whether pressure assist in a toilet really accomplishes anything beyond a couple of feet down the line.

    I think not.
    i am open to all suggestions - what would you recommend?

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    I can't help but to wonder about the plumber and what was actually performed there.

    The camera systems I have seen fit into a big suitcase.

    Every house I have seen from that era had the toilet's waste arm dropping into a vertical stack. You have never said if this is a one or two story home, with or without a basement, or what floor the bath is on.

    Without having seen what was done, and given your limited description, we don't know if they simply unclogged the toilet or actually rodded the sewer line out to it's connection at the street. One is a far cry from the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacher_chick View Post
    I can't help but to wonder about the plumber and what was actually performed there.

    The camera systems I have seen fit into a big suitcase.

    Every house I have seen from that era had the toilet's waste arm dropping into a vertical stack. You have never said if this is a one or two story home, with or without a basement, or what floor the bath is on.

    Without having seen what was done, and given your limited description, we don't know if they simply unclogged the toilet or actually rodded the sewer line out to it's connection at the street. One is a far cry from the other.
    I'll pull the documentation tonight. I'm pretty clueless with this kind of stuff. It is a two story house, without a basement. Bathroom is on the first floor.

    Thanks for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacher_chick View Post
    I can't help but to wonder about the plumber and what was actually performed there.

    The camera systems I have seen fit into a big suitcase.

    Every house I have seen from that era had the toilet's waste arm dropping into a vertical stack. You have never said if this is a one or two story home, with or without a basement, or what floor the bath is on.

    Without having seen what was done, and given your limited description, we don't know if they simply unclogged the toilet or actually rodded the sewer line out to it's connection at the street. One is a far cry from the other.
    I'll pull the documentation tonight. I'm pretty clueless with this kind of stuff. It is a two story house, without a basement. Bathroom is on the first floor.

    >>Found the documentation: He cabled the sewer line ($294 - main sewer line; toilet/Urinal Repair, minor, another $105); stoppage was scale and paper waste

    Thanks

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    Did the home sit for a good amount of time before you moved in?

    If this were the case I would suspect that the paper/waste in your main line might have dried out and became a partial blockage. If this is the case, regular use of the system could be expected to prevent it from re-occurring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacher_chick View Post
    Did the home sit for a good amount of time before you moved in?

    If this were the case I would suspect that the paper/waste in your main line might have dried out and became a partial blockage. If this is the case, regular use of the system could be expected to prevent it from re-occurring.
    Yes….the house was foreclosed upon and I believe may have been vacant for 2 years or so.

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    Number of companies are available in the market which play role in making assist toilet. Like Gerber has the Ultraflush line with Flushmate pressure assist,The Gerber Ultra Flush toilet comes with either the Sloan FLUSHMATE Flushometer - Tank System. High performance capability. That means it consumes less than 1.6 gallons of water per flush.

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    Here is a Flushmate video showing a 1.1 GPF toilet with 1,000 grams of bean paste with clear tubing.


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