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    Hello everyone,

    I'm building an addition...a sunroom. It's 16x20 and will not be heated or air conditioned, so will be a partial use room.

    The room is being built on the west side of the house where I had planned on putting a deck, but decided to build a covered room instead.

    I already have on the west side, an exterior light and a gfci outlet. I wired the entire house when building it new and I put the light box and gfci outlet on one circuit. In total, I have three exterior lights and 1 20am gfci outlet.

    This is all on one 20a breaker.

    My question is for the room. I plan to put a modest # of outlets in the room, a ceiling fan w/light and perhaps 4 wall sconce lights.

    Would it be appropriate to have on one circuit, 6 outlets, 4 wall sconce lights, a ceiling fan/light and 2 outdoor light fixtures? I'm not worried about popping the breaker as I know this will get very little use, but this will be inspected and am wondering if this will present a problem.

    thanks!

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    There's no problem having all that on a 20A circuit. Depending on the electrical codes in effect in your area, you may have to put that circuit on an
    AFCI circuit breaker. This is new construction and must meet the requirements of the current electrical codes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kreemoweet View Post
    There's no problem having all that on a 20A circuit. Depending on the electrical codes in effect in your area, you may have to put that circuit on an
    AFCI circuit breaker. This is new construction and must meet the requirements of the current electrical codes.
    Thanks!

    that's what I'll do then and see how the inspection goes...is they want a separate circuit, I'll leave things such that I pull a new wire.

    Not sure about the acfi...this isn't a bedroom, but I need to research that part of the code...my latest copy of the code is from 2008 I think. My experience w/ acfi breaker has not been positive....so, personally, I don't see the advantage of them, but if that's the code, then I won't have much choice...at least until after inspection.

    thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by backwaterdogs View Post
    my latest copy of the code is from 2008 I think.
    from the 2008 NEC
    (A) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling unit family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, combination-type, installed to provide protection of the branch circuit.

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    FWIW, they do make combination AFCI/GFCI breakers.
    Jim DeBruycker
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwelectric View Post
    from the 2008 NEC
    (A) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling unit family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, combination-type, installed to provide protection of the branch circuit.
    Thanks!

    I built this house in 2006....Likely the acfi breakers were required, but my house was outside of a jurisdiction that enforced any code...outside any city limits. My only experience with them was in a previous house where they were constantly tripping (I didn't put them in or wire the house). So, when I wired the new house, I decided not to put them to spare any trouble and the expense

    If they work, I don't have a problem putting them in, but seems to me they are there to protect the home poor, loose or other deficiencies in the wiring....not that I can't screw something up...I was pretty anal about all the connections, esp outlets. Everything is pigtailed, twisted, wire nutted.

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    Many of the originally available AFCI devices were a bit sensitive, but that isn't generally true anymore.
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