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    Default Can someone help me determine my needs?

    I need to install a water softener and I am not sure I have a grip on all the considerations. Here is the information I have thus far:

    6 people / 3.5 baths
    The city water: 14.2 gpg /243 ppm

    What else am I missing for information gathering?

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    Pipe size, and the city report will let you know if there are any other concerns. iron, manganese, pH, etc.

    With your rough numbers, I would recommend a 2.5 Cu. Ft. 7000SXT softener.
    The chart shows a 2 cu. ft. system, but considering the number of bathrooms, a system rated for higher flow rates would be recommended.
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    Ditto's to Dittohead
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    Thanks for the recommendations.

    As to pipe size, this is a new home that was plumbed for a softener. Are we talking about the size of those connections or the water main? Still working on getting the city report for mineral contents.

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    The softener loop pipe is what we need to properly size your unit. The municipality will usually have the water report posted on their website.

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    Sorry to dig up an old thread but, I still haven't installed a system and I really need to. In looking at the city's water report, they don't list any of the factors mentioned in their test results. Should I get a separate test done? IS the 7000SXT still the system of choice for my needs?

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    Yes, you need testing. You can test for hardness yourself. The Hach 5B test is widely respected. Consider ordering it directly from them. Check friends to see if they want anything, because shipping charge is significant.
    You may or may not need an iron test. Have you seen any orange staining in toilet tank inside walls? If so, get an iron test to learn the numbers. Whether you do it yourself or have it done, that figures into your softener plans.

    That was a pretty minimally useful report, and was totally useless to determine what you need in a softener. Maybe you could ask the water department for hardness, iron, and manganese numbers. Manganese testing is usually not so important in that it usually correlates fairly well with iron.

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    If it is a municipality, they will provide you with a very detailed water report, or they will have it posted on their website. Make a couple calls and see what they say.

    Good luck!

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    http://gregknowswater.com/utah-soft-...out-our-water/ says
    Elk Ridge, Woodland Hills, Salem, and surrounding area – Generally stable hardness levels at 15gpg – 25 gpg, increasing towards the east. Staining iron levels are consistently being found in Elk Ridge.

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