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    I'll try that, thanks Gary

    will it be enough time for water to dissolve 30lbs of salt on 2nd run if I manual regenerate one after another?
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    In general, how much water should one add to the brine tank after cleaning it and loading new salt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversaver View Post
    I'll try that, thanks Gary

    will it be enough time for water to dissolve 30lbs of salt on 2nd run if I manual regenerate one after another?
    Yes, sorry, you should wait at least 2 hrs after the first is done unless you have Pre Brine Refill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    In general, how much water should one add to the brine tank after cleaning it and loading new salt?
    Add water to cover the inlet of the brine pickup tube Usually about 3", and then 1 gallon for each 3 lbs of salt in your salt dose.
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    How is this so difficult? Isn't it basically just setting it up, adding salt, finding the right settings for you and that's all?
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    Here's the question; "In general, how much water should one add to the brine tank after cleaning it and loading new salt?". Now that is after cleaning a salt tank but how about when installing a new softener or salt tank? How about you taking a stab at answering it.

    When installing a new softener, even if you run a regeneration, there is no water to dissolve salt unless you add it because most control valves add the Refill water to the salt tank at the end of the present regeneration.,
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    Hi Gary,

    It seems to be better than before, but not the same as what I had before... I am currently using 12lbs setting with 0.25 BLFC, my salt time setting @ 32. Which 32 x 0.25 = 8 gallons of water, then X 3lbs salt. the water will dissolve total 24lbs of salt

    btw, I forgot to mention.. After every regeneration, the water turn little yellow with little black dot (very little). Take a day to 2 to clear out. That is weird....
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    Maybe its defective. Did you check if yours was a recalled unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silversaver View Post
    Hi Gary,

    It seems to be better than before, but not the same as what I had before... I am currently using 12lbs setting with 0.25 BLFC, my salt time setting @ 32. Which 32 x 0.25 = 8 gallons of water, then X 3lbs salt. the water will dissolve total 24lbs of salt

    btw, I forgot to mention.. After every regeneration, the water turn little yellow with little black dot (very little). Take a day to 2 to clear out. That is weird....
    I see you say you are regenerating during the day.

    That is not good. Any water used during regeneration causes hard water to get past the softener, and into the water heater if hot water being used. That will cause you to not feel slick/slippery wherever you mix hot with cold water.

    And 24 lbs worth of refill water says 12 lb/cuft, not 12 lbs.

    Amateur, the 7000 defect allowed a leak into the salt tank causing too much water in the salt tank.
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    The regeneration is setup at 4am in the morning, but I usually hit regeneration botton while we are out for dinner to avoid the noise late at night (too much noise). so there's no water usuage during regeneration.

    I have check the water level in brine tank, nothing unusual. The only problem I had is no matter how much salt it uses, I don't get the soft water from my old softener.

    "And 24 lbs worth of refill water says 12 lb/cuft, not 12 lbs." What do you mean? 8 gallons of water dissolve 24 lbs of salt. I'm running a 64k system so I assume my salt setting were 12lbs/cuft.
    Am I missing something?

    anyway, I have up the setting up @40 for 15lbs salt/cuft, lets see what happen

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    Do you have a Hach 5B test kit? What is it telling you?

    Check out the chart below. Older softeners were commonly set to regenerate with 15# salt per cu. ft.. The chart here explains what happens at different settings.

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