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    Question Toto Soiree Lazy Flush

    There have been sporadic lazy flushes in the past which resolved themselves. Not tonight.

    We have hard water but the Soiree doesn't have holes in the rim, there are two powerful nozzles.

    I tried a dishpan full of hot water and that went down slowly. So.

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollywoodgirl View Post
    There have been sporadic lazy flushes in the past which resolved themselves. Not tonight.

    I tried a dishpan full of hot water and that went down slowly. So.

    What do you think?
    I'm assuming I understand what a lazy flush is...it swirls around and instead of siphoning right down, it kind of wallows its way to the bottom of the bowl (but it does go). Is that it?

    Assuming that your fixtures downstream of this toilet are draining properly and thus there isn't some kind of systemic backup, I would try flushing it a few times by holding the handle down to drain the whole tank and see how it performs. Sometimes, the lazy flush occurs because it isn't starting with enough water. If that doesn't work, I would hit it with a plunger. Good rapid vigorous strokes. Could be there's a partial clog somewhere in there. If the plunger doesn't work, then a closet auger. If the problem doesn't resolve itself with one of these methods, report that back and see what The Gang thinks.

    What I'm recommending isn't necessarily the optimal solution, it's just basic Chicken Soup...can't hurt.

    One other thought is: does the toilet seem to be dropping as much water as usual through the flush valve? I get a lazy flush occasionally off what I call a "misfire". This occurs when for whatever reason the flapper doesn't cycle all the way open and shuts faster than usual. Usually occurs if I don't push the handle all the way down before releasing. The bowl gets a little water in it, the tank starts refilling, but there isn't enough water through the valve to do a regular flush, just a slow siphon to the bottom.
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    Originally Posted by wjcandee
    I'm assuming I understand what a lazy flush is...it swirls around and instead of siphoning right down, it kind of wallows its way to the bottom of the bowl (but it does go). Is that it? Yes

    Assuming that your fixtures downstream of this toilet are draining properly and thus there isn't some kind of systemic backup, I would try flushing it a few times by holding the handle down to drain the whole tank and see how it performs. Sometimes, the lazy flush occurs because it isn't starting with enough water. If that doesn't work, I would hit it with a plunger. Good rapid vigorous strokes. Could be there's a partial clog somewhere in there. If the plunger doesn't work, then a closet auger. If the problem doesn't resolve itself with one of these methods, report that back and see what The Gang thinks. The tank drains completely but the water enters the bowl and s l o w l y drains and then it bubbles

    What I'm recommending isn't necessarily the optimal solution, it's just basic Chicken Soup...can't hurt.

    One other thought is: does the toilet seem to be dropping as much water as usual through the flush valve? I get a lazy flush occasionally off what I call a "misfire". This occurs when for whatever reason the flapper doesn't cycle all the way open and shuts faster than usual. Usually occurs if I don't push the handle all the way down before releasing. The bowl gets a little water in it, the tank starts refilling, but there isn't enough water through the valve to do a regular flush, just a slow siphon to the bottom. It's not doing this. Thank you for your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollywoodgirl View Post
    Originally Posted by wjcandee
    I'm assuming I understand what a lazy flush is...it swirls around and instead of siphoning right down, it kind of wallows its way to the bottom of the bowl (but it does go). Is that it? Yes

    Assuming that your fixtures downstream of this toilet are draining properly and thus there isn't some kind of systemic backup, I would try flushing it a few times by holding the handle down to drain the whole tank and see how it performs. Sometimes, the lazy flush occurs because it isn't starting with enough water. If that doesn't work, I would hit it with a plunger. Good rapid vigorous strokes. Could be there's a partial clog somewhere in there. If the plunger doesn't work, then a closet auger. If the problem doesn't resolve itself with one of these methods, report that back and see what The Gang thinks. The tank drains completely but the water enters the bowl and s l o w l y drains and then it bubbles

    What I'm recommending isn't necessarily the optimal solution, it's just basic Chicken Soup...can't hurt.

    One other thought is: does the toilet seem to be dropping as much water as usual through the flush valve? I get a lazy flush occasionally off what I call a "misfire". This occurs when for whatever reason the flapper doesn't cycle all the way open and shuts faster than usual. Usually occurs if I don't push the handle all the way down before releasing. The bowl gets a little water in it, the tank starts refilling, but there isn't enough water through the valve to do a regular flush, just a slow siphon to the bottom. It's not doing this. Thank you for your time.
    PS No plunger or auger in the house, I'll call Rapid Rooter in the morning.

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    We generally recommend against anything with the name "rooter" in it. You're better off with a plain ol' experienced, trusted plumber. Unfortunately, Terry isn't in your area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
    We generally recommend against anything with the name "rooter" in it. You're better off with a plain ol' experienced, trusted plumber. Unfortunately, Terry isn't in your area.
    I'll call the plumber who installed the toilet. Thank you.

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