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    Default Time for a new water softener system.

    My current GE softener has become more work than it's worth so I'm going to replace it. I'm thinking about getting this unit:

    http://www.americanhomewater.com/patriot.php


    Any opinions from the pros?

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    The Fleck 5600 control valve is an excellent valve. You can get units equipped with that valve for a lot less money.

    Here is one example:

    http://www.ohiopurewater.com/shop/cu...me.php?cat=178

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    Thanks for the insight. How do I size the unit I need? I have a 2100sf home with 2 adults living in it.

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    What is your water analysis--hardness and iron/manganese are of primary interest?

    Do you have any large tubs, multihead showers, or other application of softened water that have unusually high flow demands? If so please describe.

    Sizing is done based on compensated hardness and peak flow rate the softener will be expected to treat.

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    Water is very hard in my city but not a lot of metals/minerals. I don't have real numbers but that is what I have been told by a city worker.

    We are simple water users and do not have huge tubs or multihead showers.

    From additional research I feel a 32,000 grain unit would suffice.

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    If you have city water municipal water suppliers are required to regularly test the water and make the results available to users. Many municipalities post the results on a website. Others will provide the information if you call and ask.

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    Found the report from last year:
    Hardness is 250-300
    Iron - 0.84 Max
    Manganese-0.12 Max

    http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/Assets/P...lityReport.pdf

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    American home Water only sells very good quality equipment, you will do great with their units. The whole group over there has really got there stuff together. I would highly recommend them. Great prices, top notch service and equipment. The valve they use is a real Fleck too, not some cheap fake knockoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Found the report from last year:
    Hardness is 250-300
    Iron - 0.84 Max
    Manganese-0.12 Max

    http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/Assets/P...lityReport.pdf
    A 1 cubic foot unit should work well.

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    Thanks for all the input guys. Is a 1 cubic foot unit equal to a 32000 grain unit?

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    Yes, but the actual capacity will be much lower for efficiency reasons. The maximum I recommend programming a "32,000" grain unit for in a residential is to 24,000 grains. I prefer going lower. The grains capacity is based on resin volume and the amount of salt used during regeneration. Running a 1 Cu. Ft system at 32,000 grains is extremely inefficient.

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    Hi,

    I'm new to forum and looking for a new water softener. I am currently using a 10 yrs old GE Smartwater Profile which needs to be replace. After reading the forum, I think Fleck 7000 @ 48,000 grain might be a great choice for my family. I don't think I can do the installation myself.... Can someone referral me a good place to purchase and someone who can do the installation job for me?

    My GE water softener is old using the 3/4" pipe and I do think the new system with 1" pipe might be better for water flow rate? Sorry, I am a newbie and looking for great advise

    My location is Socal Orange County. It is a 4 bed rooms house with 4 people

    Thanks
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    PM sent. Thanks

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    @dittihead,

    48k or 64k grin? not much price different but I prefer smaller or narrower tank... Which bypass should I pick??

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    The 7000 has several plumbing connectors available. Considering you are in Orange County California, you will have copper plumbing. I would get the sweat connectors that match your plumbing. The valve only has the high flow bypass available. I prefer the 64,000 grain system, it is only 12" diameter and gives you maximum softness/flow/efficiency.

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