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    Hello all! I removed a cracked toilet in my fairly new home, thought was going to be a quick easy holiday project but need some advice. I immediately saw the flange wasn't level and could see many gaps so I removed the screws, pulled the flange, and the attached pic is what I saw. Seems the drain was in the wrong spot so they had tried to use an offset flange to move it over. However they needed to move it more than the flange allowed so they cut part of the flange and let the toilet drain run over parts of the cement flooring under the toilet to get to the drain. This was probably why we always noticed a smell in this bathroom.

    This is a cement floor, what would be the proper way to repair? I'm thinking I need to chip some of the cement out and somehow find a longer extended offset flange?

    any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!

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    Cannot tell from your picture how the connection was made or what is left of the pipe down in the hole.

    Assuming that is a section of pipe in the ground, and not the bell of a fitting, you will have to chip out all the way around the pipe so that a coupler can be installed on the pipe and the riser extended up to floor level. If the closet bend is broken off in the ground, then the entire thing will need to be cut out and replaced.

    I doubt there is such a thing as a "longer offset flange". If that is a full 12" tile, it would appear that the rough-in is close to being the correct distance from the wall.

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    It is not clear from the pics what is the back and what is the side. Offset flanges do come with different amounts of offset but your problem is how to properly join up to the pipe in the ground. Besides the usual glue joint, some flanges have a compression gasket while others have a labyrinth seal.

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    thanks for the replies. I attached a third pic so you can see how it's positioned against the wall. The flange that was in there wasn't glued or anything, just pushed inside the drain hole.

    The drain pipe that is coming up doesn't seem to come up far enough, and isn't a clean cut off either. Looks like someone chipped away the pipe and crudely cut the flange so they could meet. Looks like I'll have to chip out more than I thought of the floor? doesn't look like any fitting on what is in the floor, just some elbow of the drain, no coupler.

    thanks again for the help, I'm actually recoving from my 2nd hernia surgery of 2012 so taking it easy on this one

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    Is that ABS or CI in the floor?

    Here is a CI flange with a 2" offset. I don't know how you can marry them together.

    http://www.wentworthco.com/products/...et-flange.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by LLigetfa View Post
    Is that ABS or CI in the floor?

    Here is a CI flange with a 2" offset. I don't know how you can marry them together.

    http://www.wentworthco.com/products/...et-flange.aspx
    it's ABS in the floor, and looks like someone cut off the top of it with a chisel as it's not clean or even.

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